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Toast is making up its own information - Don C - 02-08-2013
I used Toast 7.1.1 to burn five different versions of a folk dance, Sicilan Tarantella to a CD-R.
When the CD comes up in the Finder, the CD has been named "A List of Songs" and each track has a name.
Canto Alla Vita
I Don't Remember Christmas
Lost in the Wilderness
Stairs, and
This is the Moment
iTunes even tells me that the artist is Meshpolhe Mina.
Now, I have never heard of this artist, I have no albumns called "A List of Songs" and I have no recordings of any of these names so I cannot figure out where Toast is getting this information.
I thought maybe it was going out to the internet to get the names so I turned off Airport and burned another disk (CD-RW so I can erase it) and got the same results.
Toast does not show these changes in its window. It is only when I mount the new CD do I find these changes.
Where is Toast getting these names and how to I stop it from renaming my files?
TIA
Screen shot
Re: Toast is making up its own information - Mr645 - 02-08-2013
It's probably looking up the songs on the CDDB database. And making a mistake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDDB
Since identification of CDs is based on the length and order of the tracks, CDDB cannot identify playlists in which the order of tracks has been changed, or compilations of tracks from different CDs. CDDB also cannot distinguish between different CDs that have the same number of tracks and the same track lengths.
Re: Toast is making up its own information - space-time - 02-08-2013
I thought maybe it was going out to the internet to get the names so I turned off Airport and burned another disk (CD-RW so I can erase it) and got the same results.
my guess is that it cached that wrong information already, so now it doesn't need to go to the net to look it up
Re: Toast is making up its own information - bazookaman - 02-08-2013
Don C wrote:
I Don't Remember Christmas
That just sounds like such a sad song.
Re: Toast is making up its own information - anonymouse1 - 02-08-2013
If different people have uploaded the same song to CDDB with different names, you'll get that kind of result...
Re: Toast is making up its own information - ArtP - 02-08-2013
space-time wrote:
I thought maybe it was going out to the internet to get the names so I turned off Airport and burned another disk (CD-RW so I can erase it) and got the same results.
my guess is that it cached that wrong information already, so now it doesn't need to go to the net to look it up
Yep - probably this.
I used to get a lot of promotional CDs and CD singles from Record labels - Sometimes they would include the Single, Instrumental, and Call Out hook or Snippet. Sometimes they would come back from the internet in iTunes based on length or number of tracks.
Best thing to do is correct it and maybe submit the track names to the CD database
Re: Toast is making up its own information - space-time - 02-08-2013
actually now that I looked at your screenshot it seems that iTunes pulled up the wrong info from CDDB, I don't think Toast did that. The name of the song and album is not on most CD, unless that have a feature called CD-TEXT (IIRC).
I'd say try to delete that info from iTunes and enter your own
Re: Toast is making up its own information - Chakravartin - 02-09-2013
space-time wrote:
I'd say try to delete that info from iTunes and enter your own
Yeah. iTunes made a mistake. Rename the disc and tracks in iTunes.
Re: Toast is making up its own information - rz - 02-09-2013
bazookaman wrote:
[quote=Don C]
I Don't Remember Christmas
That just sounds like such a sad song.
Depends on the reason why you don't remember it.
o
Re: Toast is making up its own information - Don C - 02-09-2013
A little research confirms the error. According to cylist.com this musician/artist has a disk with five five tracks and each of the five is about the same length as my five. CDDB must think that this CD is that one.
I turned off Airport, cutting internet access, and cleared iTunes cache thinking that iTunes would reset its settings but that did not work. iTunes held on to the wrong settings.
Entering the correct information into iTunes did fix it so that when I ejected and reinserted the disk iTunes AND the Finder both now gave me the correct information.
I wonder if there is a way to tell iTunes, "...this is the wrong entry, don't use it." Clearing the cache does not do that.
Thanks for the help.