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Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on. - deckeda - 12-02-2019
It's not because of Republican opposition. Well, not officially
It was "your" idea. Ain't that sweet?
State lawmakers acknowledge lobbyists helped craft their op-eds attacking Medicare-for-all
Remember when "liberals" meant progressive?
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on. - vision63 - 12-02-2019
No way they would do that! These are elected officials they're accusing.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on. - Sarcany - 12-02-2019
Medicare for all doesn't work on its own because you're still on the hook for at least 20% of your medical bills under Medicare.
You will still need a supplemental insurance plan.
We should have a true single-payer system, but I would settle for “Medicare Extra For All,” so long as bankruptcy-inducing co-pays and "patient responsibility" bills are eliminated.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on. - Ombligo - 12-02-2019
Sarcany wrote:
Medicare for all doesn't work on its own because you're still on the hook for at least 20% of your medical bills under Medicare.
You will still need a supplemental insurance plan.
We should have a true single-payer system, but I would settle for “Medicare Extra For All,” so long as bankruptcy-inducing co-pays and "patient responsibility" bills are eliminated.
I too would like a single-payer system, but the Medicare model with supplemental works in that it keeps the private insurance sector working. Closing out the private sector totally could cost upwards of 500,000 jobs.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on. - RgrF - 12-02-2019
You'll never get costs under control if you don't eventually remove insurance companies from the equation.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on. - cbelt3 - 12-02-2019
RgrF wrote:This. Because Medicare/Medicaid ONLY works because the rest of us pay out the hoo ha.
You'll never get costs under control if you don't eventually remove insurance companies from the equation.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on. - Ted King - 12-02-2019
RgrF wrote:
You'll never get costs under control if you don't eventually remove insurance companies from the equation.
I think the theory a lot of moderate Democrats think makes sense is that by the government providing more efficient, better quality and cheaper health care through a public option that we would evolve away from private insurance.
I have no idea if there is a way to fashion a public option where we do get such an evolution away from private insurance (I think some form of private insurance will at least persist in some more limited manner). As a purely political consideration, I do think a public option has more appeal to that small segment of persuadable voters than does Medicare for all.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on. - mattkime - 12-02-2019
IMO, a stepwise plan is far better, but politics being politics its probably easier to make one big change rather than a series of small changes over time - after all, look at the evolution of ObamaCare.
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on. - DeusxMac - 12-02-2019
cbelt3 wrote:
Because Medicare/Medicaid ONLY works because the rest of us pay out the hoo ha.
In basic terms, that's how ALL insurance works: homeowners, auto etc.
Those who don't utilize/need payouts subsidize those who do.
(Dammit, I never had no car accident, so my insurance payments been goin to all them lousy drivers!)
Re: Here's why you don't like Medicare-For-All, why it can't work and so on. - AllGold - 12-02-2019
Getting insurance companies out of it is tough. Not just because it would result in the loss of a lot of jobs, but also because of how our political system has been perverted to allow massive influence from large corporations.