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Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event - Black - 01-09-2011
Speedy wrote:
I expect his radio presets will show him to be a Rush Limpbaugh, Sean Inanity, Michael Savage nine hour a day listener.
Podcasts maybe. Reports suggest he'd be out with his dog and iPod rather than driving anywhere.
Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event - RgrF - 01-09-2011
Palin speaks:
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The Congresswoman responds.
Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event - Mac1337 - 01-09-2011
Is Communist Manifesto on iTunes?
Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event - $tevie - 01-09-2011
Black wrote: You seem to be loving this.
He does seem to be enjoying it at the very least. Trolling must not stop just because human beings including children have lost their lives!
Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event - Mac1337 - 01-09-2011
This is like discussing race. Sooner or later someone is going to pull the race card. What is the enjoyment? There is a thread open about this murder. There are only so many condolences you can post. The rest invariably veers off to politics and I made sure I wasn't the one to start it. For the record, Palin's poster was a dumb idea and this is the first time I see it. I am not a regular visitor to her Facebook page. But as Howard Kurtz said today or yesterday, gun metaphor is so intertwined with American English that you just can't take every word literally.
Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event - Carnos Jax - 01-09-2011
It doesn't help when your party encourages this
Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event - Black Tea - 01-09-2011
Before blaming Palin for this, don't forget that the Daily Kos put a bullseye on Gifford back in 2008:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/01/08/paul-krugman-blames-giffords-shooting-palin-limbaugh-and-beck
Guess that's what bluedog dems get from the left for voting against Pelosi for speaker.
Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event - Ca Bob - 01-09-2011
I suppose there is an element of guessing when you don't have all the information about the shooter. Some people have been speculating about the push buttons on his radio dial -- are they set to Limbaugh and Hannity and Beck? Others point to his reading list on social media sites, as if these had much to do with what people really do (as opposed to what they read).
But given that the shooter is a psychotic with obsessions about the currency and delusions about a second constitution -- a raving lunatic -- I think it is fair to ask the following question: Why is it that he chose this particular congresswoman to assassinate? I suggest that the real answer will be a bit of a mix, but the major component had to have been the amplitude and the tone of the attacks against her by the right wing activists in the area and on the local media. That chart coming from the Palin organization with the cross hairs on it may not have been the precise inspiration, but it is demonstrative of the rest of the rhetoric and writings and picket signs that show themselves at the tea party rallies and in letters to the editor and on local talk radio.
It is the tone of fear and paranoia aimed at what is, at most, the political opposition, and it is the amplitude and repetition of the fear mongering that gets picked up by the truly crazy.
This was not a unique event, as we have seen killings of abortion doctors and explosions at clinics in recent years, and of course the Oklahoma City bombings.
What is really dispicable is some of the name calling on that newsbusters link, which reflexively applies the term "liberal" to anybody it disagrees with: "All indications are that Jared Lee Loughner is a liberal." This is right wing fear mongering carried to the ultimate. Was the mass murder in Oklahoma City done by a liberal? When we observe white men speaking and writing neo-nazi diatribes, we usually associate them with the right wing because that is where they associate themselves, and because they find homes in groups that are traditionally associated with the right and which have ties to the right.
Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event - Blankity Blank - 01-09-2011
Black Tea wrote:
Before blaming Palin for this, don't forget that the Daily Kos put a bullseye on Gifford back in 2008:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/01/08/paul-krugman-blames-giffords-shooting-palin-limbaugh-and-beck
Guess that's what bluedog dems get from the left for voting against Pelosi for speaker.
The incident referred to in the link -
A piece on the Daliy Kos that included Giffords name on the list below and the language "... but this vote certainly puts a bulls eye on their districts..."
Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Arizona Event - $tevie - 01-09-2011
Thanks, Blankity Blank. Black Tea's link simply led to the Newbuster site and it was impossible to find what (s)he was referring to.