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Re: Out of the past.......if the shoe fits...... - Black - 03-23-2013 I think you guys may be off on the source. I'm pretty sure I recognize most of this from an e-mail I received sometime in the last week (which I unfortunately deleted) that had the subject line "Longer Stronger Penis." samintx wrote: Re: Out of the past.......if the shoe fits...... - Dennis S - 03-23-2013 swampy wrote: I don't believe I've ever encountered a more classless person (and I' don't mean Tocqueville.) Re: Out of the past.......if the shoe fits...... - Ted King - 03-23-2013 I wrote an earlier post where what I said was contingent on what Alexis de Tocqueville's position was with respect to democratically elected government (since it wasn't clear from that excerpt what form of government he was talking about). Right after posting, I decided to track down the whole thing and found it here: http://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch4_06.htm After reading just the first couple of paragraphs, it was clear he was specifically talking about the representative democratic, republican form of governments so I came back and deleted my post since its substance was contingent on that not being the case. Having finished reading the whole thing, I was at first tempted to launch into a complex philosophical analysis which is the only way to do anything like justice when analyzing an essay with such finely constructed thought. But even though it seems to some people like I am writing long free-associations on everything, there are many times when I don't do that because it is a lot of work and I don't think enough people would be interested in that type of in-depth philosophical analysis (although I admit that sometimes I do those anyway just because the topic really interests me - please feel free to skip any and all of them if they are not to your taste). So I will summarize this way - what de Tocqueville was saying is quite general. It's so general that it essentially can serve as a Rorschach test for ones attitudes toward government. If you were a fairly radical libertarian, you would see the creation of just about any large public utility or infrastructure as evidence of the "truth" of what de Tocqueville said in that essay. If you think that government involvement often expands opportunities for people rather than limits them, you would look at modern Democrat's priorities and say that they don't fit what de Tocqueville was warning about. |