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Re: Riddle me this: Why Can Google Do What Apple Can't- Remote Desktop - Carm - 01-17-2015

I use TeamViewer to remotely help my FIL. Much better than having to drive 30 miles round trip. Simple to use and setup. Don't know the price, but free for personal use works for me.


Re: Riddle me this: Why Can Google Do What Apple Can't- Remote Desktop - davemchine - 01-17-2015

Back to my Mac was too unreliable for me. I switched to Screens which works well for IOS and OSX. Team Viewer works with Windows and has built in file transfers. It has a lot of pop up ads though.


Re: Riddle me this: Why Can Google Do What Apple Can't- Remote Desktop - Article Accelerator - 01-17-2015

silvarios wrote:
[quote=vision63]
[quote=STL]
Google proudly admits they read your gmail.
Knowing that how could you ever trust their integrity enough to through them for access back to your Mac?
If you're smart you won't.

All of your email is scanned.
Spitting into the wind my friend. A talking point is needed to demonize the latest in a long line of Apple enemies. This has been going on since IBM.

Anywho, as you mentioned, all your email is scanned to a point. How do people think spam filtering works.
I think the difference is that Google scans your mail for two purposes, one of which is to determine if it's junk mail; Apple only scans for the latter.


Re: Riddle me this: Why Can Google Do What Apple Can't- Remote Desktop - Onamuji - 01-17-2015

Article Accelerator wrote:
I think the difference is that Google scans your mail for two purposes, one of which is to determine if it's junk mail; Apple only scans for the latter.

Google scans your email to deliver targeted ads to you and datamine your associations.


Re: Riddle me this: Why Can Google Do What Apple Can't- Remote Desktop - Article Accelerator - 01-17-2015

Onamuji wrote:
[quote=Article Accelerator]
I think the difference is that Google scans your mail for two purposes, one of which is to determine if it's junk mail; Apple only scans for the latter.

Google scans your email to deliver targeted ads to you and datamine your associations.
Yep, that's what I'm saying!


Re: Riddle me this: Why Can Google Do What Apple Can't- Remote Desktop - Onamuji - 01-17-2015

Article Accelerator wrote:
[quote=Onamuji]
[quote=Article Accelerator]
I think the difference is that Google scans your mail for two purposes, one of which is to determine if it's junk mail; Apple only scans for the latter.

Google scans your email to deliver targeted ads to you and datamine your associations.
Yep, that's what I'm saying!
Yeah, but your math was wrong.

That makes THREE things Google's scanning your email for.

(Tongue)


Re: Riddle me this: Why Can Google Do What Apple Can't- Remote Desktop - sekker - 01-17-2015

That linked article sure explains a lot of things.

I bet it also explains why wifi sync with iTunes also sucks.


Re: Riddle me this: Why Can Google Do What Apple Can't- Remote Desktop - hal - 01-17-2015

Onamuji wrote:
[quote=Article Accelerator]
I think the difference is that Google scans your mail for two purposes, one of which is to determine if it's junk mail; Apple only scans for the latter.

Google scans your email to deliver targeted ads to you and datamine your associations.
...and what harm might come of it? Seriously... I ask this question once a year and no one ever offers an answer... just a lot of !!!s and lines like, 'well, keep using it and you'll find out!'

as far as I'm concerned the only effect is targeted ads that I don't see because of adblock. What else? How will using google harm a person? Has google ever called a girlfriend to tell her that her boyfriend has been cheating on her because he wrote it in an email?


Re: Riddle me this: Why Can Google Do What Apple Can't- Remote Desktop - Onamuji - 01-17-2015

hal wrote:
...and what harm might come of it? Seriously... I ask this question once a year and no one ever offers an answer... just a lot of !!!s and lines like, 'well, keep using it and you'll find out!'

There's nothing to stop them from sharing that info and there's little preventing a breach allowing hackers to get the info... There's nothing preventing them from collaborating with other data mining companies (or buying their databases) and accumulating a complete profile of every (commercially exploitable and political) aspect of your life. Every person you know, every place you've ever traveled, your mother's maiden name, DMV info, social security... Every organization you've ever belonged to, what charities you've given to, whether you've ever called a politician by a dirty name.

You really can't imagine any misuse of all of that data? On a small scale, there's identity-theft and scaling up from that is industrial espionage via spear-phishing (which took down Target and Sony and ICANN). Political parties may use the info to manipulate you out of your vote. Insurance companies may decide that cough you had when you were 5 years old is an undisclosed pre-existing condition voiding your coverage just when you need $50,000 worth of surgery... Maybe your run for city council will be tainted by that sexy pic your girlfriend sent you 20 years ago in high school... You may be targeted for violence by gangs or profiled by cops or find your old love letters to your wife used in a national ad or your "private" photos used by criminals in an international scam (really happens) ... Tip of the iceberg. Use your imagination.


Re: Riddle me this: Why Can Google Do What Apple Can't- Remote Desktop - vision63 - 01-17-2015

Onamuji wrote:
[quote=hal]
...and what harm might come of it? Seriously... I ask this question once a year and no one ever offers an answer... just a lot of !!!s and lines like, 'well, keep using it and you'll find out!'

There's nothing to stop them from sharing that info and there's little preventing a breach allowing hackers to get the info... There's nothing preventing them from collaborating with other data mining companies (or buying their databases) and accumulating a complete profile of every (commercially exploitable and political) aspect of your life. Every person you know, every place you've ever traveled, your mother's maiden name, DMV info, social security... Every organization you've ever belonged to, what charities you've given to, whether you've ever called a politician by a dirty name.

You really can't imagine any misuse of all of that data? On a small scale, there's identity-theft and scaling up from that is industrial espionage via spear-phishing (which took down Target and Sony and ICANN). Political parties may use the info to manipulate you out of your vote. Insurance companies may decide that cough you had when you were 5 years old is an undisclosed pre-existing condition voiding your coverage just when you need $50,000 worth of surgery... Maybe your run for city council will be tainted by that sexy pic your girlfriend sent you 20 years ago in high school... You may be targeted for violence by gangs or profiled by cops or find your old love letters to your wife used in a national ad or your "private" photos used by criminals in an international scam (really happens) ... Tip of the iceberg. Use your imagination.
They're not going to do any of that. And trust me, Apple does the exact same thing as Google, because it's good business. Both of them struggle with not wanting to comply with NSA which is what you should really be concerned about. This is the entity that can DO you. Google and Apple, Yahoo, etc., would go out of business if their customers believed that they would share their information with 3 parties outside of their user agreements. They don't want that. If some aspect of Government subpoenaed Apple for details regarding whatever data that streams from your iDevice or Mac, every tiny aspect of your activity is readily available for examination. Worrying about Google because you prefer Apple is worrying about the wrong people.