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Re: High fever, chills, nausea, weakness and swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpit or groin? - $tevie - 09-15-2015
mrbigstuff wrote::jest:
i think the Colorado Plague used to be the Hartford Whalers
Re: High fever, chills, nausea, weakness and swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpit or groin? - ztirffritz - 09-15-2015
In the western states it's mostly squirrels and chipmunks and such. I've been getting into target shooting and hunting with airguns lately. In Washington, no game animals can be harvested with airguns, but there's a list of 'unclassified' animals that can be harvested. Most squirrels are on the list (there are a few that are protected species though). If a critter is on the 'unclassified' list you can hunt them year round in unlimited quantities by any means (ie bow, slingshot, airgun, firearm, etc). Where I live rats are becoming a real problem too, but they don't allow anyone to hunt anything within city limits. Having said that...airguns are quiet with a silencer and silencers on airguns are legal, so there's no need for the neighbors to even know that I'm cleaning up the rat problem for them.
Re: High fever, chills, nausea, weakness and swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpit or groin? - NewtonMP2100 - 09-15-2015
.....how can you tell if the groin is......uhm....swollen......???
Re: High fever, chills, nausea, weakness and swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpit or groin? - Racer X - 09-15-2015
ztirffritz wrote:
In the western states it's mostly squirrels and chipmunks and such. I've been getting into target shooting and hunting with airguns lately. In Washington, no game animals can be harvested with airguns, but there's a list of 'unclassified' animals that can be harvested. Most squirrels are on the list (there are a few that are protected species though). If a critter is on the 'unclassified' list you can hunt them year round in unlimited quantities by any means (ie bow, slingshot, airgun, firearm, etc). Where I live rats are becoming a real problem too, but they don't allow anyone to hunt anything within city limits. Having said that...airguns are quiet with a silencer and silencers on airguns are legal, so there's no need for the neighbors to even know that I'm cleaning up the rat problem for them.
Just be very careful getting rid of the bodies. The rat may be dead, but the fleas aren't.
Re: High fever, chills, nausea, weakness and swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpit or groin? - Paul F. - 09-15-2015
Little "spritz" of flea killer...
Leave the body out a while for the fleas to die...
THEN dispose of the body.
Oh, and a legal tip - silencers for air guns that are the same diameter/caliber as firearm calibers are a legally "grey" area, particularly if you OWN a firearm of the same caliber (ie; a .22 cal air gun and a .22 caliber rifle). The ATF has prosecuted people on the assumption that they COULD have violated the law by attaching the silencer to a firearm, even though in other rulings by the technical department they have expressly said "air gun moderators don't count".
(Caveat: the case I recall COULD very well have been a "firearm design" moderator and the defendant was trying to "get away with it" by saying it was for an air rifle... )
Re: High fever, chills, nausea, weakness and swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpit or groin? - ztirffritz - 09-15-2015
Paul F. wrote: Oh, and a legal tip - silencers for air guns that are the same diameter/caliber as firearm calibers are a legally "grey" area, particularly if you OWN a firearm of the same caliber (ie; a .22 cal air gun and a .22 caliber rifle). The ATF has prosecuted people on the assumption that they COULD have violated the law by attaching the silencer to a firearm, even though in other rulings by the technical department they have expressly said "air gun moderators don't count".
(Caveat: the case I recall COULD very well have been a "firearm design" moderator and the defendant was trying to "get away with it" by saying it was for an air rifle... )
This is drifting way off-topic, but when I researched this, the concern of the ATF was if the silencer could be used on a firearm. If you show that the airgun silencer has features intentionally designed to interfere with installation on firearms, then you're good. So reverse threads, non-standard thread pitch, building baffles that only work in a specific assembly, etc. are enough to satisfy the ATF. Local ordinances might trump the ATF stance though. New Jersistan for example has some particularly draconian rules.
Re: High fever, chills, nausea, weakness and swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpit or groin? - Paul F. - 09-15-2015
ztirffritz wrote:
[quote=Paul F.]Oh, and a legal tip - silencers for air guns that are the same diameter/caliber as firearm calibers are a legally "grey" area, particularly if you OWN a firearm of the same caliber (ie; a .22 cal air gun and a .22 caliber rifle). The ATF has prosecuted people on the assumption that they COULD have violated the law by attaching the silencer to a firearm, even though in other rulings by the technical department they have expressly said "air gun moderators don't count".
(Caveat: the case I recall COULD very well have been a "firearm design" moderator and the defendant was trying to "get away with it" by saying it was for an air rifle... )
This is drifting way off-topic, but when I researched this, the concern of the ATF was if the silencer could be used on a firearm. If you show that the airgun silencer has features intentionally designed to interfere with installation on firearms, then you're good. So reverse threads, non-standard thread pitch, building baffles that only work in a specific assembly, etc. are enough to satisfy the ATF. Local ordinances might trump the ATF stance though. New Jersistan for example has some particularly draconian rules.
Yup... as long as it "can't" be used on a firearm, you're good... (as the owner of a lathe, I put that in quotes, since re-threading a muzzle is pretty trivial, but you get the idea...).
Re: High fever, chills, nausea, weakness and swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpit or groin? - freeradical - 09-15-2015
ztirffritz wrote:
New Jersistan.
:jest:
Re: High fever, chills, nausea, weakness and swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpit or groin? - Racer X - 09-15-2015
ztirffritz wrote:
[quote=Paul F.]Oh, and a legal tip - silencers for air guns that are the same diameter/caliber as firearm calibers are a legally "grey" area, particularly if you OWN a firearm of the same caliber (ie; a .22 cal air gun and a .22 caliber rifle). The ATF has prosecuted people on the assumption that they COULD have violated the law by attaching the silencer to a firearm, even though in other rulings by the technical department they have expressly said "air gun moderators don't count".
(Caveat: the case I recall COULD very well have been a "firearm design" moderator and the defendant was trying to "get away with it" by saying it was for an air rifle... )
This is drifting way off-topic, but when I researched this, the concern of the ATF was if the silencer could be used on a firearm. If you show that the airgun silencer has features intentionally designed to interfere with installation on firearms, then you're good. So reverse threads, non-standard thread pitch, building baffles that only work in a specific assembly, etc. are enough to satisfy the ATF. Local ordinances might trump the ATF stance though. New Jersistan for example has some particularly draconian rules.
With an air rifle, I have seen them "permanently" attached from the factory. That should get you off the hook. Just saying. You don't get the debris/lead build up like with a powder firearm.