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Re: Issue with Pool Manager - OWC Jamie - 07-04-2016
space-time wrote:
[quote=Filliam H. Muffman]
Small minded people like enforcing rules to ruin other peoples experiences. Another guess is they didn't speak with the local accent and he thought he was protecting the association from "them."
Pool manager is white. My friends are white, one of them is a computer scientist and the other is a medical doctor. Not that this has anything to do with it, but I wan to give you an idea that these are educated people who are polite and don't offend anyone.
Most of the community around here is mixed, people from all over the world, and in my HOA the majority of residents are Indian and Chinese. Most residents have some accent. We all get along just fine!
"The racial makeup of the township was 41.07% (9,445) White, 8.03% (1,847) Black or African American, 0.30% (69) Native American, 46.22% (10,630) Asian, 0.02% (4) Pacific Islander, 1.76% (404) from other races, and 2.61% (600) from two or more races. Hispanics or Latinos of any race were 6.21% (1,429) of the population.[8] As of the 2010 Census, 29.6% of the township's population self-identified as being Indian American, making them the largest minority group in the township.[8]"
Some people go out in their yards and find racism under rocks.
Re: Issue with Pool Manager - Don C - 07-04-2016
When I was HOA president, I was accused of not being strong enough. We did have a fellow whose "letter of the law" was much more stringent than my "intent of the law" and he antagonized nearly everybody.
It is not that he took power to his head (it can happen) but that he was more interested in enforcing the rules (as he read them) than in making the neighborhood a welcoming and inviting place to live.
Re: Issue with Pool Manager - M A V I C - 07-04-2016
If you don't like the rules, don't agree to them. I don't understand why people sign contracts, then complain when the terms are enforced.
A friend had a similar issue, except it was with a hot tub. Insurance co found out, rates went way up. HOA voted to remove the hot tub instead of paying the new rate.
Re: Issue with Pool Manager - Mike Johnson - 07-04-2016
I don’t belong to an HOA -- when we were looking for a house I insisted, no HOA -- but we do belong to a private neighborhood pool. And I like it because they’re totally chill. If somebody causes a problem and complains, the woman in charge will send an email reminding people to be polite. That happens maybe once a year, and the last time it was just a misunderstanding and cleared up quickly. Of course, the summer lifeguard needs to be obeyed, but that goes without saying.
You can bring guests. You can’t bring a lot. You don’t have to fill out waivers or pay for them, just don’t be rude. The rule is "Also please limit your guests as this is a club for members use.” If you want to have a party, just rsvp and pay the fee for a lifeguard and then you can have like 25 guests. You want to throw a boogie board in the water, have at it. Want to play with Max Liquidator squirt cannons, don’t squirt the sunbathers. No radios, no food or drink on the deck. Kids under 12 must be accompanied by an adult unless there’s a lifeguard, which there is during summer from 10am - 4pm.
I bring all this up because it’s possible, even in 2016, to have a shared pool without going overboard on rules and regulations. Your pool manager answers to the HOA. If you’re not happy with how it’s run, get involved with your HOA and make it better. The world is run by the people who show up.
Re: Issue with Pool Manager - testcase - 07-04-2016
[quote=M A V I C]
If you don't like the rules, don't agree with them. I don't understand why people sign contracts, then complain when the terms are enforced.
:agree:
Perhaps there had been a problem shortly before your event that prompted the strict enforcement. Before trying to "bend" the rules, I would have tried speaking with the management and requesting a "courtesy" be extended. That way, management gets recognized and "stroked" and, they have the opportunity to be magnanimous in a limited way. if said "courtesy" was not granted, then you could have made other arrangements to avoid embarrassment (perhaps another resident / neighbor could have "hosted" some of your group).
Re: Issue with Pool Manager - max - 07-04-2016
nwyaker wrote:
[quote=Racer X]
That's why I wouldn't go near a HOA property.
:agree:
True dat....
Re: Issue with Pool Manager - davester - 07-04-2016
Mike Johnson wrote:
The world is run by the people who show up.
Exactly!
Re: Issue with Pool Manager - Mr645 - 07-04-2016
If an HOA does not enforce a rule for a long time they may not be able to enforce that rule moving forward. I used to live in a townhouse where pets were not allowed. No dogs or cats. However a new owner moved in with cat and was sent a notice that cats were not allowed. That new owner came to a board meeting and stated that there are many cats living inside in more then a few homes. The attorney for the HOA explained that since the property manager likely had knowledge of cats living inside homes and did not enforce the rule for many years, the could no begin enforcing the rule now.
So perhaps if there has never been an issue with owners bringing more then 4 guests in the past, it may not be legal to begin enforcing the rule now.
Re: Issue with Pool Manager - sekker - 07-04-2016
I'd look into whether the limit is for people in the pool or just the pool area.
You need to find a way to acknowledge following the rules is something you support, or you will lose this argument.
I'm sorry if this caused you angst. It's quite possible that enforcing this rule was enforced from elsewhere.
Re: Issue with Pool Manager - SteveG - 07-04-2016
You know how Billy Wilder would have solved this...
I happen to be President of the HOA!