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Re: 84 Lumber (The Full Journey) - abevilac - 02-07-2017
Ali Belshi of CNN thinks that it glorifies the wall and is really a pro trump ad.
Re: 84 Lumber (The Full Journey) - hal - 02-07-2017
Well it sure looked like it featured proud, intelligent people looking to come north for opportunity and finding a welcoming country with a great big wall and a wide open door.
The more I think about it, the less I think I understand...
Re: 84 Lumber (The Full Journey) - vision63 - 02-07-2017
hal wrote:
Well it sure looked like it featured proud, intelligent people looking to come north for opportunity and finding a welcoming country with a great big wall and a wide open door.
The more I think about it, the less I think I understand...
Why overthink it? 84 Lumber doesn't survive without Latinos (especially undocumented ones). Just look outside of whatever Home Depot is near you. Who is standing around looking for work?
Re: 84 Lumber (The Full Journey) - Speedy - 02-07-2017
abevilac wrote:
Ali Belshi of CNN thinks that it glorifies the wall and is really a pro trump ad.
Yup. Almost like God opened the massive doors and the woman and her daughter walked through.
Pres. Trump promised The Wall would have a big door. And this god will open the door for some (and it won't be people like this woman and her daughter).
We were conned by 84 Lumber.
Re: 84 Lumber (The Full Journey) - Lemon Drop - 02-07-2017
The company owner says she wanted to "start a conversation" about immigration - pretty sure we were already having that one.
Fox rejected the full add as too controversial, but posted the full thing on their website.
The problem for me is that the add seems to portray compassion and dignity for people who want to come to the US but if she's a Trump supporter, she can't have missed his main message which was just the opposite.
If she had made an ad showing that her company treats immigrants well and is strongly against exploitation and in favor of immigration reform and thinks the wall is a stupid idea, now that's something I could support. Now that I know the backstory I see that the ad was just a soft-pedaling of the Trump message. which is pretty gross.
Re: 84 Lumber (The Full Journey) - rjmacs - 02-07-2017
It was a nice looking wall, though, dontcha think?
Re: 84 Lumber (The Full Journey) - vision63 - 02-07-2017
Lemon Drop wrote:
The company owner says she wanted to "start a conversation" about immigration - pretty sure we were already having that one.
Fox rejected the full add as too controversial, but posted the full thing on their website.
The problem for me is that the add seems to portray compassion and dignity for people who want to come to the US but if she's a Trump supporter, she can't have missed his main message which was just the opposite.
If she had made an ad showing that her company treats immigrants well and is strongly against exploitation and in favor of immigration reform and thinks the wall is a stupid idea, now that's something I could support. Now that I know the backstory I see that the ad was just a soft-pedaling of the Trump message. which is pretty gross.
It doesn't matter what she thinks. You act like she's this amazing storyteller that slyly and convincingly weaved this sneaky tale of supporting the Trump agenda via a master-crafted piece of cinema. If that was her purpose she obviously failed. The woman and the child in the piece didn't fill out any papers. They just walked over the border. You only know this because the b**** opened her mouth. Had she not you wouldn't know. It's like all of a sudden Shindler's List would cease being a great film if we found out some Nazi produced it.
Re: 84 Lumber (The Full Journey) - hal - 02-07-2017
vision63 wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
The company owner says she wanted to "start a conversation" about immigration - pretty sure we were already having that one.
Fox rejected the full add as too controversial, but posted the full thing on their website.
The problem for me is that the add seems to portray compassion and dignity for people who want to come to the US but if she's a Trump supporter, she can't have missed his main message which was just the opposite.
If she had made an ad showing that her company treats immigrants well and is strongly against exploitation and in favor of immigration reform and thinks the wall is a stupid idea, now that's something I could support. Now that I know the backstory I see that the ad was just a soft-pedaling of the Trump message. which is pretty gross.
It doesn't matter what she thinks. You act like she's this amazing storyteller that slyly and convincingly weaved this sneaky tale of supporting the Trump agenda via a master-crafted piece of cinema. If that was her purpose she obviously failed. The woman and the child in the piece didn't fill out any papers. They just walked over the border. You only know this because the b**** opened her mouth. Had she not you wouldn't know. It's like all of a sudden Shindler's List would cease being a great film if we found out some Nazi produced it.
I'm thinking this is a woman that wants to eat her cake and have it too. It seems that she's trying to score points for both sides at the same time.
Re: 84 Lumber (The Full Journey) - Lemon Drop - 02-09-2017
vision63 wrote:
It's like all of a sudden Shindler's List would cease being a great film if we found out some Nazi produced it.
Hyperbolic much?
It's just a lumber company ad. With strong political undertones. And the company's CEO supports Trump and the wall. She did it for attention, and she got it. So I'd have to say it did work.
Re: 84 Lumber (The Full Journey) - $tevie - 02-09-2017
Maybe people can learn not to go all crazy with love because they think a commercial is supporting their political views. Like the Bud commercial which was in the works for eight months and was intended to be a story about their founder as immigrant. It wasn't political, it just happened to come out right at the time that made it appear so. This 84 Lumber spot is kind of a great lesson in perception vs reality.