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Re: James Comey not getting a warm reception at Howard - vision63 - 09-22-2017
Uncle Wig wrote:
[quote=vision63]
They're frustrated that our society isn't taking the disastrous and ongoing killing of unarmed Black people seriously enough. I get their concerns and I feel their passion for justice. We want the same things. We just have different ideas about how to get there. Since they're kids, they're infuriating. Since I'm older, I'm annoying.
It is frustrating. It's ill-informed actions like this that have really undercut the message of BLM, and pretty much destroyed its effectiveness and credibility. Instead, BLM is not taken seriously by the very people who don't understand why killing unarmed black people is a problem or even accept that it is a problem.
College students must learn that you don’t win an argument by being the loudest. You win an argument by having a better argument.
Re: James Comey not getting a warm reception at Howard - hal - 09-22-2017
vision63 wrote:
[quote=Uncle Wig]
[quote=vision63]
They're frustrated that our society isn't taking the disastrous and ongoing killing of unarmed Black people seriously enough. I get their concerns and I feel their passion for justice. We want the same things. We just have different ideas about how to get there. Since they're kids, they're infuriating. Since I'm older, I'm annoying.
It is frustrating. It's ill-informed actions like this that have really undercut the message of BLM, and pretty much destroyed its effectiveness and credibility. Instead, BLM is not taken seriously by the very people who don't understand why killing unarmed black people is a problem or even accept that it is a problem.
College students must learn that you don’t win an argument by being the loudest. You win an argument by having a better argument.
A buncha riled up kids have a hard time sitting still and hearing this advise. Was the 19 year old v63 that cool?
Re: James Comey not getting a warm reception at Howard - Lemon Drop - 09-22-2017
Uncle Wig wrote:
[quote=vision63]
They're frustrated that our society isn't taking the disastrous and ongoing killing of unarmed Black people seriously enough. I get their concerns and I feel their passion for justice. We want the same things. We just have different ideas about how to get there. Since they're kids, they're infuriating. Since I'm older, I'm annoying.
It is frustrating. It's ill-informed actions like this that have really undercut the message of BLM, and pretty much destroyed its effectiveness and credibility. Instead, BLM is not taken seriously by the very people who don't understand why killing unarmed black people is a problem or even accept that it is a problem.
fragile white person much?
I'm wondering which people who support the BLM movement are worried what you think. I'm thinking none.
Re: James Comey not getting a warm reception at Howard - Lemon Drop - 09-22-2017
Some of the slogans included "No justice, no peace, "We shall not be moved" and "white supremacy is not a debate."
Standing before a packed auditorium, Comey stood silently for over 15 minutes as the students yelled, "I love being black" and "Get out James Comey -- you're not our homey."
You know how you get your message out? You disrupt a high profile speaker. It works. I support the action and the message 100%.
How much does a 15 minute delay cost James Comey?
Re: James Comey not getting a warm reception at Howard - Uncle Wig - 09-22-2017
Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=Uncle Wig]
[quote=vision63]
They're frustrated that our society isn't taking the disastrous and ongoing killing of unarmed Black people seriously enough. I get their concerns and I feel their passion for justice. We want the same things. We just have different ideas about how to get there. Since they're kids, they're infuriating. Since I'm older, I'm annoying.
It is frustrating. It's ill-informed actions like this that have really undercut the message of BLM, and pretty much destroyed its effectiveness and credibility. Instead, BLM is not taken seriously by the very people who don't understand why killing unarmed black people is a problem or even accept that it is a problem.
fragile white person much?
I'm wondering which people who support the BLM movement are worried what you think. I'm thinking none.
Re: James Comey not getting a warm reception at Howard - Onamuji - 09-22-2017
$tevie wrote:
Comey seemed to be unperturbed. He's got more depth than the children realize. What they should have been hollering about was that damned memo.
I disagree. He did a lot to ruin the lives of a lot of innocent people.
But he did handle that well.
In his place, I would have thanked them and praised the institution for encouraging political participation, but standing there quietly and taking it was a respectable response.
Re: James Comey not getting a warm reception at Howard - $tevie - 09-22-2017
Lemon Drop wrote: You know how you get your message out? You disrupt a high profile speaker. It works. I support the action and the message 100%.
How much does a 15 minute delay cost James Comey?
What did it accomplish exactly, aside from a brief blip on the news cycle. Are you saying that faculty and students at Howard University didn't know about racism until these brave souls came along?
Re: James Comey not getting a warm reception at Howard - Onamuji - 09-23-2017
$tevie wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]You know how you get your message out? You disrupt a high profile speaker. It works. I support the action and the message 100%.
How much does a 15 minute delay cost James Comey?
What did it accomplish exactly, aside from a brief blip on the news cycle. Are you saying that faculty and students at Howard University didn't know about racism until these brave souls came along?
It reminds him that he may just be accountable for his actions some day.
Ni conversus fueris et sicut puer factus
Et vitam mutaveris in meliores actus,
Intrare non poteris regnum Dei beatus.
Ad mortem festinamus peccare desistamus.
Remember, thou art mortal.
Re: James Comey not getting a warm reception at Howard - Uncle Wig - 09-23-2017
$tevie wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]You know how you get your message out? You disrupt a high profile speaker. It works. I support the action and the message 100%.
How much does a 15 minute delay cost James Comey?
What did it accomplish exactly, aside from a brief blip on the news cycle. Are you saying that faculty and students at Howard University didn't know about racism until these brave souls came along?
It accomplished the further erosion and dilution of the BLM message. What's being paid attention to is the childish behavior of those students.
Re: James Comey not getting a warm reception at Howard - Lemon Drop - 09-23-2017
Onamuji wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
[quote=Lemon Drop]You know how you get your message out? You disrupt a high profile speaker. It works. I support the action and the message 100%.
How much does a 15 minute delay cost James Comey?
What did it accomplish exactly, aside from a brief blip on the news cycle. Are you saying that faculty and students at Howard University didn't know about racism until these brave souls came along?
It reminds him that he may just be accountable for his actions some day.
Ni conversus fueris et sicut puer factus
Et vitam mutaveris in meliores actus,
Intrare non poteris regnum Dei beatus.
Ad mortem festinamus peccare desistamus.
Remember, thou art mortal.
Thank you!'
Nobody owes anyone a gentle or polite response to racism or to the people who represent and further the deep and abiding structural racism of our society.