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Re: Flake, Collins are a Yes vote - SteveG - 10-05-2018
Things are only going to get worse. Be prepared to spend a while ridding ourselves of this Republican/Trump nightmare.
(Oh, by the way, America's future is riding on it)
Re: Flake, Collins are a Yes vote - hal - 10-05-2018
All of this fight and all we got is an energized right just in time for the midterms - GREAT!
Re: Flake, Collins are a Yes vote - JoeH - 10-05-2018
btfc wrote:
Manchin says he'll vote yes. Think he'll get re-elected? I'm over hoping that Susan Collins will show some political guts. This could affect her when her term is up. Lisa Murkowski's stance is impressive, but I'm betteng that the eventual outcome (including the apology) was all prearranged.
Since saying she would not vote for Trump in 2016, Collins has supported almost every action 45 has taken. Perhaps she thinks this will be seen as okay by the time she is up for reelection in 2020. She might be right, there is a part of the Maine electorate where this resonates.
Re: Flake, Collins are a Yes vote - rjmacs - 10-05-2018
JoeH wrote:
[quote=btfc]
Manchin says he'll vote yes. Think he'll get re-elected? I'm over hoping that Susan Collins will show some political guts. This could affect her when her term is up. Lisa Murkowski's stance is impressive, but I'm betteng that the eventual outcome (including the apology) was all prearranged.
Since saying she would not vote for Trump in 2016, Collins has supported almost every action 45 has taken. Perhaps she thinks this will be seen as okay by the time she is up for reelection in 2020. She might be right, there is a part of the Maine electorate where this resonates.
The governor is a real piece of work.
Re: Flake, Collins are a Yes vote - btfc - 10-05-2018
I'm thinking being seen as being moderate and independent plays well in Maine. There has been a huge backlash against Gov. LePage, but yeah, Collins's walk hasn't matched her talk.
Re: Flake, Collins are a Yes vote - deckeda - 10-05-2018
My impression is that voters forget results but remember the soundbites and platitudes. It'll always be easier to say what you "want" vs what you did.
Re: Flake, Collins are a Yes vote - Ombligo - 10-05-2018
For those voting on election day, this will be forgotten by the majority (yes, 6 weeks). So any effect on a senatorial election in 2020 is extremely unlikely. It will simply be a soundbite and a counter soundbite.
Re: Flake, Collins are a Yes vote - Sarcany - 10-06-2018
Lemon Drop wrote:
I don't know what to make of the speech Susan Collins just gave. I've never heard a Senator defend and recommend a nominee quite like that. She's all but predicting how he will rule on major issues.
Then she smears Dr. Ford.
Well, she is a Republican, in case anyone needed reminding.
That was probably the most awful speech I've ever heard.
She has a timid manner, so it was especially disconcerting as she spewed a bunch of horrid lies and half-truths under the premise of "protecting the innocent" and then tried to play it like Senate republicans were somehow being sympathetic with the victims of sexual assaults. And then she instructed women who had been assaulted -- and their friends and loved ones -- to hide themselves away rather than bringing those assaults to light or pressing criminal charges against the possibility that it might be hurtful to expose such criminal acts.
I don't know how anyone could speak like that and still look at themselves in the mirror the next morning.
Re: Flake, Collins are a Yes vote - OWC Jamie - 10-06-2018
Needs a windmill.
Re: Flake, Collins are a Yes vote - Filliam H. Muffman - 10-06-2018
Collins gave Kavanaugh the benefit of doubt, something she refused to give her colleague Al Franken. She must be looking forward to some sweet dark money to help her out in the primary and general elections.