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Re: Mitch wrote an op/ed the other day - WAPO - Speedy - 10-21-2019
$tevie wrote:
I've gotten so cynical that all I can think is "I wonder what he's up to, writing this?" I can't simply accept that he wanted to go on record about the issue. I am looking for the crafty, manipulative purpose of writing it.
You mean like, it’s all Pres. Obama’s fault.
Re: Mitch wrote an op/ed the other day - WAPO - vision63 - 10-21-2019
Speedy wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
I've gotten so cynical that all I can think is "I wonder what he's up to, writing this?" I can't simply accept that he wanted to go on record about the issue. I am looking for the crafty, manipulative purpose of writing it.
You mean like, it’s all Pres. Obama’s fault.
It's still a statement that is counter to Trump's accidental objectives. I think he's signaling Trump about the limits of his caucus' tolerances. To keep his shenanigans defensible for his members.
Re: Mitch wrote an op/ed the other day - WAPO - Ombligo - 10-21-2019
It would not completely surprise me if he is getting ready to toss Trump under the bus. He may view Trump as a liability in the next election cycle while Pence will do the same bidding without the lunacy.
Re: Mitch wrote an op/ed the other day - WAPO - Speedy - 10-21-2019
All the Republicans are trying to calculate how much backlash they will get from the Deplorables if they dump Pres. Trump. Obviously a backlash is inevitable and will be devastating. Pres. Trump, if convicted, could run as a third party candidate - unless the conviction also includes a bar preventing him from running for president or vice-president. How a Pres. Pence handles an ex-President Trump will be immeasurably important to the future of the Republicans. I can only hope they have the guts and the patriotism to convict...
Re: Mitch wrote an op/ed the other day - WAPO - RgrF - 10-22-2019
Speedy wrote:
I can only hope they have the guts and the patriotism to convict...
That's delusional, this is today's GOP not the GOP of Nixon days.
Re: Mitch wrote an op/ed the other day - WAPO - rjmacs - 10-22-2019
RgrF wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
I can only hope they have the guts and the patriotism to convict...
That's delusional, this is today's GOP not the GOP of Nixon days.
The Republicans of Nixon days were going to convict and remove Nixon because it was their sole path to reelection. Don't over-romanticize the halcyon days of past by pretending we used to be better people. Not true.
The GOP will turn on Sweet Potato Saddam when and only when it's clear that to stand with him will mean losing their reelection campaigns. And that is about public opinion - not nationwide, but specifically in their states.
Re: Mitch wrote an op/ed the other day - WAPO - RgrF - 10-22-2019
rjmacs wrote:
[quote=RgrF]
[quote=Speedy]
I can only hope they have the guts and the patriotism to convict...
That's delusional, this is today's GOP not the GOP of Nixon days.
The Republicans of Nixon days were going to convict and remove Nixon because it was their sole path to reelection. Don't over-romanticize the halcyon days of past by pretending we used to be better people. Not true.
The GOP will turn on Sweet Potato Saddam when and only when it's clear that to stand with him will mean losing their reelection campaigns. And that is about public opinion - not nationwide, but specifically in their states.
Elliot Richardson and Archibald Cox might have disagreed.
Re: Mitch wrote an op/ed the other day - WAPO - rjmacs - 10-22-2019
RgrF wrote:
[quote=rjmacs]
[quote=RgrF]
[quote=Speedy]
I can only hope they have the guts and the patriotism to convict...
That's delusional, this is today's GOP not the GOP of Nixon days.
The Republicans of Nixon days were going to convict and remove Nixon because it was their sole path to reelection. Don't over-romanticize the halcyon days of past by pretending we used to be better people. Not true.
The GOP will turn on Sweet Potato Saddam when and only when it's clear that to stand with him will mean losing their reelection campaigns. And that is about public opinion - not nationwide, but specifically in their states.
Elliot Richardson and Archibald Cox might have disagreed.
Neither was elected. I'm talking about voting Senators, who constitute the GOP for all practical purposes.
The kind of Republicans you're talking about still exist - Ted Olsen, Robert Mueller, etc. But they are not part of the decision-making body anymore. They are outcasts and outsiders, and they can - so far - do nothing to stop this president.
Re: Mitch wrote an op/ed the other day - WAPO - RgrF - 10-22-2019
It was Howard Baker, a republican from Tennessee who discovered the existence of the tapes that ultimately led to Nixon's resignation.