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Re: AP: 'Republicans condemned Trump. Now they’re seeking his help.' - Ted King - 01-29-2021
Ombligo wrote:
A bill has been put forward in Arizona that would allow the state legislature to change the electoral vote as it sees fit. Essentially the popular vote would just be a referendum for the state legislature to consider before it decides who is the best candidate.
Wow. Republicans seem to be determined to kill democracy to maintain power.
Re: AP: 'Republicans condemned Trump. Now they’re seeking his help.' - sekker - 01-29-2021
Ted King wrote:
[quote=Ombligo]
A bill has been put forward in Arizona that would allow the state legislature to change the electoral vote as it sees fit. Essentially the popular vote would just be a referendum for the state legislature to consider before it decides who is the best candidate.
Wow. Republicans seem to be determined to kill democracy to maintain power.
Did you just figure that out now?
Killing voting rights has been a GOP mainstream tactic for over 100 years...
Re: AP: 'Republicans condemned Trump. Now they’re seeking his help.' - Ted King - 01-29-2021
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Re: AP: 'Republicans condemned Trump. Now they’re seeking his help.' - rgG - 01-30-2021
Ombligo wrote:
A bill has been put forward in Arizona that would allow the state legislature to change the electoral vote as it sees fit. Essentially the popular vote would just be a referendum for the state legislature to consider before it decides who is the best candidate.
I believe even this SCOTUS would strike that one down
Re: AP: 'Republicans condemned Trump. Now they’re seeking his help.' - JoeH - 01-30-2021
mrbigstuff wrote:
[quote=sekker]
And the Dems HAVE to keep this front and center.
'Remember Georgia' - 2022 can be the true refutation of Trump and Trumpism.
This can't be overstated. The next presidential election hinges on what happens in less than two years, not to mention the democratic underpinnings of our republic.
The next presidential election already hinges on the 2020 elections. Reapportionment based on the 2020 Census will be going through the state legislatures that were elected and started serving this year. As much as the Democratic Oarty should have learned from the lesson of the 2010 election cycle, they did not move the makeup of state legislatures all that much during this election.
The 2022 elections will be important too, but unless voter rights are an important effort over the next few years, the GOP may suppress enough votes from being cast that they may continue to hold a disproportionate representation at al levels of government.
Re: AP: 'Republicans condemned Trump. Now they’re seeking his help.' - mrbigstuff - 01-30-2021
JoeH wrote:
[quote=mrbigstuff]
[quote=sekker]
And the Dems HAVE to keep this front and center.
'Remember Georgia' - 2022 can be the true refutation of Trump and Trumpism.
This can't be overstated. The next presidential election hinges on what happens in less than two years, not to mention the democratic underpinnings of our republic.
The next presidential election already hinges on the 2020 elections. Reapportionment based on the 2020 Census will be going through the state legislatures that were elected and started serving this year. As much as the Democratic Oarty should have learned from the lesson of the 2010 election cycle, they did not move the makeup of state legislatures all that much during this election.
The 2022 elections will be important too, but unless voter rights are an important effort over the next few years, the GOP may suppress enough votes from being cast that they may continue to hold a disproportionate representation at al levels of government.
Yes, the gop controlled state legislatures get to determine congressional districts based on a (possibly flawed, btw) census, but people will still be able to vote and there is still plenty of time between now and the midterms to make the case for a Dem. That's the point of what I wrote.
Re: AP: 'Republicans condemned Trump. Now they’re seeking his help.' - Speedy - 01-31-2021
“Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke.
They stand four-square for the American home-but not for housing.
They are strong for labor-but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights.
They favor minimum wage-the smaller the minimum wage the better.
They endorse educational opportunity for all-but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools.
They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine-for people who can afford them ...
They think American standard of living is a fine thing-so long as it doesn't spread to all the people.
And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it."
—Harry S. Truman, October 13, 1948, St. Paul, Minnesota, Radio Broadcast