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Re: F-15EX First Flight - STL - 02-03-2021
An insanely great and beautiful fighter undefeated in air comb with over 100 kills.
Unlike the disasters, F-35 & F-22, the F-15 has legs, speed, maneuverability and meets it's cost and performance specs.
LM are great for airshows but when a pilot goes to war he wants an F-15.
Re: F-15EX First Flight - mikebw - 02-03-2021
Always liked that F-15 design!
Re: F-15EX First Flight - Rolando - 02-03-2021
Ombligo wrote:
The fourth generation, non-stealth airframes have been shown to be cannon fodder against fifth-generation fighters and will be modern Brewster Buffalo's against the upcoming six-generation fighters. It really is an expensive stop-gap that will be pretty useless within a decade.
Its basically a missile truck that will fly behind the 6th Gens and back them up. A backpack, if you will...
I do wonder why they did not use the canted tails from the "silent eagle"?
Re: F-15EX First Flight - Will Collier - 02-03-2021
Ombligo wrote:
It will be good for foreign sales to countries looking to upgrade and not facing potential threats from China or Russia. Air Forces from Europe, Asia, or the US will be less enthralled by it. The fourth generation, non-stealth airframes have been shown to be cannon fodder against fifth-generation fighters and will be modern Brewster Buffalo's against the upcoming six-generation fighters. It really is an expensive stop-gap that will be pretty useless within a decade.
Yep. Friend of mine flew an early 2000's flight test fight, was supposed to be six F-15C's vs. two early production F-22's. The second 22 had to abort on the ramp, so they couldn't get the formal test in, but since everybody else was in the air (the Eagles had flown down from Nellis to Edwards, piloted by Weapons School instructors), they set it up anyway for practice.
Five minutes later, that buggy-avionics, single-digit-tail-number Raptor was the only live jet left in the sky. None of the Eagles so much as got a shot off. And that was almost 20 years ago.
Re: F-15EX First Flight - Paul F. - 02-03-2021
Will Collier wrote:
[quote=Ombligo]
It will be good for foreign sales to countries looking to upgrade and not facing potential threats from China or Russia. Air Forces from Europe, Asia, or the US will be less enthralled by it. The fourth generation, non-stealth airframes have been shown to be cannon fodder against fifth-generation fighters and will be modern Brewster Buffalo's against the upcoming six-generation fighters. It really is an expensive stop-gap that will be pretty useless within a decade.
Yep. Friend of mine flew an early 2000's flight test fight, was supposed to be six F-15C's vs. two early production F-22's. The second 22 had to abort on the ramp, so they couldn't get the formal test in, but since everybody else was in the air (the Eagles had flown down from Nellis to Edwards, piloted by Weapons School instructors), they set it up anyway for practice.
Five minutes later, that buggy-avionics, single-digit-tail-number Raptor was the only live jet left in the sky. None of the Eagles so much as got a shot off. And that was almost 20 years ago.
Absolutely true...
But remember: There are two kinds countries: those that can afford the 5th gen and 6th gen aircraft, and the other 95%. The customers buying the the undefeated in real combat F-15's are those that expect to face the other 95%, not the 5%.
Re: F-15EX First Flight - freeradical - 02-03-2021
Not Your Father’s F-15...
https://warontherocks.com/2019/06/f-15ex-the-strategic-blind-spot-in-the-air-forces-fighter-debate/
Re: F-15EX First Flight - Carnos Jax - 02-03-2021
Will Collier wrote:
[quote=Ombligo]
It will be good for foreign sales to countries looking to upgrade and not facing potential threats from China or Russia. Air Forces from Europe, Asia, or the US will be less enthralled by it. The fourth generation, non-stealth airframes have been shown to be cannon fodder against fifth-generation fighters and will be modern Brewster Buffalo's against the upcoming six-generation fighters. It really is an expensive stop-gap that will be pretty useless within a decade.
Yep. Friend of mine flew an early 2000's flight test fight, was supposed to be six F-15C's vs. two early production F-22's. The second 22 had to abort on the ramp, so they couldn't get the formal test in, but since everybody else was in the air (the Eagles had flown down from Nellis to Edwards, piloted by Weapons School instructors), they set it up anyway for practice.
Five minutes later, that buggy-avionics, single-digit-tail-number Raptor was the only live jet left in the sky. None of the Eagles so much as got a shot off. And that was almost 20 years ago.
That’s the thing about the Raptor, the fight’s usually over before there is even a fight.
Re: F-15EX First Flight - wolfcry911 - 02-03-2021
F-15EX
More Capability. More Capacity. More
I always loved the now retired Tomcats but the F15 is a close second.
Re: F-15EX First Flight - C(-)ris - 02-03-2021
"F-15EX requires no new logistics chains, training squadrons, infrastructure modification, program offices or even weapons integration. Units converting to F-15EX can transition within weeks or months, not years, of receiving new aircraft. These benefits, combined with the lowest cost per flight hour in its class, make F-15EX the total life cycle solution to meet U.S. Air Force capacity requirements."
Just like the 737-Max?