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Re: Alabama fails to reverse ban on yoga as conservatives say they fear rise in Hinduism - Janit - 04-02-2021
It's supposedly about separation of church and state, since they view yoga as a "religious" practice, rather than an exercise regimen.
Maybe they should replace namaste with UStA and create a truly American form. See suggested poses below:
Patriot Warrior
Liberty Tree
Rifleman I
Rifleman II
Rifleman III
Bald Eagle
Rattlesnake
American Bison
Duck and Cover
Downward Facing Pit Bull
And most iconic of all:
Shot-Dead Toddler
Re: Alabama fails to reverse ban on yoga as conservatives say they fear rise in Hinduism - Ted King - 04-02-2021
sekker wrote:
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Heading back to our working EULA, the US Constitution:
"First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
This double-edged sword is wielded by both sides. Which are you taking?
I do not understand how this law, that is trying to be repealed, is legal in the first place. It is written to block the practice of Hinduism. What am I missing?
This is about activities that take place in public schools. It's supposedly about being consistent with Supreme Court rulings on what is permissible in public schools with respect to religion. What a noble goal! Keep religion out of our schools!
But as far as I know, the state of Alabama has a law that says:
https://law.justia.com/codes/alabama/2009/Title16/Chapter1/16-1-20_2.html
2009 Alabama Code
Title 16 — EDUCATION.
Chapter 1 — GENERAL PROVISIONS.
Section 16-1-20.2 School prayer.
Section 16-1-20.2
School prayer.
From henceforth, any teacher or professor in any public educational institution within the State of Alabama, recognizing that the Lord God is one, at the beginning of any homeroom or any class, may pray, may lead willing students in prayer, or may lead the willing students in the following prayer to God:
Almighty God, You alone are our God. We acknowledge You as the Creator and Supreme Judge of the world. May Your justice, Your truth, and Your peace abound this day in the hearts of our countrymen, in the counsels of our government, in the sanctity of our homes and in the classrooms of our schools in the name of our Lord. Amen.
Maybe the courts have thrown this out since the JUSTIA sight was last updated - it sure seems clearly unconstitutional to me. Even if the courts have thrown it out I have no doubt what-so-ever that the same politicians that are so down on yoga would say they support the saying of that prayer to the students in public schools.
Re: Alabama fails to reverse ban on yoga as conservatives say they fear rise in Hinduism - rjmacs - 04-02-2021
Lots of unconstitutional laws remain on the books in states across the country, Ted. They don't automatically get erased from the judicial code just because they are declared unconstitutional. Lots and lots of anti-abortion and anti-sodomy laws still exist, they just aren't enforceable.
I don't think a teacher is constitutionally permitted to lead prayer in class, though I believe there are places where students are permitted to do so, as long as no one is compelled to participate.
Re: Alabama fails to reverse ban on yoga as conservatives say they fear rise in Hinduism - Ted King - 04-02-2021
rjmacs wrote:
Lots of unconstitutional laws remain on the books in states across the country, Ted. They don't automatically get erased from the judicial code just because they are declared unconstitutional. Lots and lots of anti-abortion and anti-sodomy laws still exist, they just aren't enforceable.
I don't think a teacher is constitutionally permitted to lead prayer in class, though I believe there are places where students are permitted to do so, as long as no one is compelled to participate.
I didn't mean to imply anything about whether or not the law was "still on the books" even if struck down by courts. I don't know how that website deals with such situations.
My primary purpose was to present to the forum the text of a law that the same kinds of guys passed not that long ago and to say that those guys would still be gung-ho to allow public school employees lead a thinly veiled Christian prayer with students if they could. These guys aren't acting out of concern for keeping religion out of schools, they are acting out of wanting to keep non-Christianish religion out of schools.
Re: Alabama fails to reverse ban on yoga as conservatives say they fear rise in Hinduism - SteveG - 04-02-2021
The 3:05 comes through downtown Montgomery every day
Re: Alabama fails to reverse ban on yoga as conservatives say they fear rise in Hinduism - Carnos Jax - 04-02-2021
The irony is that pretty much all of the symbolism and traditions in southern Christian culture are derived from pagan traditions. The depiction of angels, the styling of their churches, and the holidays they celebrate.....all non-Christian derived traditions. Then again, these aren’t the smartest people were talking about. They pretty much rely on the intellectual capital of their heathen brethren.
Re: Alabama fails to reverse ban on yoga as conservatives say they fear rise in Hinduism - rjmacs - 04-02-2021
Steve G. wrote:
The 3:05 comes through downtown Montgomery every day
Looks like theatrical blood makeup and painted foam core to me!
Re: Alabama fails to reverse ban on yoga as conservatives say they fear rise in Hinduism - $tevie - 04-03-2021
Oh dear God, every day I realize how much stupider Americans are than I thought. Every.damn.day. It's exhausting.