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Re: Professional Curiosity: What do your kids schools use for 1:1 Devices? - Paul F. - 01-31-2022
The school where I work (and manage the devices) is 1:1 with Chromebooks from 3rd grade on up. K-2 have access to carts of them when they need them, but use them infrequently enough we don't need them 1:1 in those grades.
The K-2 also have ~5 iPads per room. Those are getting long in the tooth, and need replacing.
The Chromebooks are pretty close to the PERFECT tool for what they do. Admin-wise, they ARE perfect. This was a big mistake Apple made right from the start with the iOS - it's a SINGLE. USER. DEVICE. Yes, there are MDM packages that, for an ongoing price, alleviate some of that, but, the iPad is a terrible multi-user-environment tool.
I love my iPad at home, but, at work? I &%$#ing HATE having to deal with them.
Google and the ChromeOS won the Education market war that Apple didn't even know they were fighting.
Re: Professional Curiosity: What do your kids schools use for 1:1 Devices? - ztirffritz - 01-31-2022
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Re: Professional Curiosity: What do your kids schools use for 1:1 Devices? - cbelt3 - 01-31-2022
My kids used Macbooks for college. The youngest had a Thinkpad through high school. The local schools used Chromebooks for a while.
Re: Professional Curiosity: What do your kids schools use for 1:1 Devices? - samintx - 01-31-2022
jdc wrote:
brand new $280 million high school in middle/upper class white hood - 13" HP chromebooks. No idea on specs, but seem fine. touchscreen. USB C charging.
Is it because Chrome is much cheaper than iPads they are used more in schools?
Re: Professional Curiosity: What do your kids schools use for 1:1 Devices? - freeradical - 01-31-2022
samintx wrote:
[quote=jdc]
brand new $280 million high school in middle/upper class white hood - 13" HP chromebooks. No idea on specs, but seem fine. touchscreen. USB C charging.
Is it because Chrome is much cheaper than iPads they are used more in schools?
It's a very good story...
Two years ago, the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD) tried an interesting new experiment: give every student a tablet computer equipped with a digital curriculum. It was a bold move that was supposed to push Los Angeles public schools into the 21st century. It turned out to be a disaster.
The idea was certainly huge, requiring the purchase of 650,000 Apple iPads, networking gear and educational software from Pearson -- all at a cost of nearly $1.3 billion. L.A. Schools Superintendent John Deasy, who launched the program in 2013, also saw it as a way to help the city’s low-income students. Until Deasy’s announcement, students had limited access to digital education tools at computer labs, which couldn’t accommodate all students at the same time.
Today, LAUSD is exploring possible litigation against Apple and Pearson, the world’s largest education publishing company, to recoup millions of dollars; a criminal grand jury is investigating possible ethics violations by district officials; the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Securities and Exchange Commission have launched their own inquiries into possible wrong-doing; and Deasy resigned.
https://www.govtech.com/education/what-went-wrong-with-la-unifieds-ipad-program.html
Re: Professional Curiosity: What do your kids schools use for 1:1 Devices? - C(-)ris - 01-31-2022
samintx wrote:
[quote=jdc]
brand new $280 million high school in middle/upper class white hood - 13" HP chromebooks. No idea on specs, but seem fine. touchscreen. USB C charging.
Is it because Chrome is much cheaper than iPads they are used more in schools?
They actually aren't cheaper in the long run, since the iPads hold their value better. It ends up being cheaper to run iPads after the trade in value is taken into consideration. A 4 year old iPad is worth around $100 to $125 in general. A 4 year old Chromebook is worth about $25-$50. They both cost around $300 new and management and warranty costs are about a wash on each.
I think it has more to do with how learning is done at the HS level. It is a sit and get model of learning instead of an interactive exploratory model.
Chromebooks are far better at doing Zoom and typing papers/spreadsheets than iPads. But if you want to start recording videos, taking photos, green screen work, podcasts...essentially any creative work the iPads run circles around the Chromebooks for that type of functionality.
Re: Professional Curiosity: What do your kids schools use for 1:1 Devices? - C(-)ris - 01-31-2022
Ombligo wrote:
Our district gives iPads to every student from 3rd grade up. The high schools have asked to be switched to Chromebooks but district tech said it isn't an option. For a while, many students started bringing their own laptops but then district tech locked down the internet to only district-supplied devices.
Students are given an iPad in third grade that they keep until middle school, then a new one is issued which is then replaced when they start high school. When the student turns it in when moving to the next level or graduates, the iPad is retired.
Having seen the situation in person, the high schools are right. The older students would do much better with Chromebooks or laptops. Students and teachers hate the iPads, but the district doesn't care what the users think, only what the tech supervisor decides is best.
Does the HS curriculum support the type of device that the iPad is, or is it your traditional "sit and get" environment that High Schools have been teaching for 25+ years? In a well run environment Curriculum, Instruction, and Tech should be working together to design a system that works together. What that looks like is going to be different everywhere and going to depend on what outcomes the district is trying to provide for students.
Re: Professional Curiosity: What do your kids schools use for 1:1 Devices? - d4 - 01-31-2022
What do you mean by "1:1 Devices" ?
My kids are 8 and 11. Elementary and Middle School. Both my kids are lent (for the school year) locked down Chromebooks and chargers. They carry the Chromebooks back and forth to school and home. Returning them at the end of the school year.
Upper middle class area. High taxes due to the schools.
Re: Professional Curiosity: What do your kids schools use for 1:1 Devices? - C(-)ris - 01-31-2022
d4 wrote:
What do you mean by "1:1 Devices" ?
My kids are 8 and 11. Elementary and Middle School. Both my kids are lent (for the school year) locked down Chromebooks and chargers. They carry the Chromebooks back and forth to school and home. Returning them at the end of the school year.
Upper middle class area. High taxes due to the schools.
Those are 1:1 devices. 1:1 device programs mean that a school or district has provided a device to all students.
Re: Professional Curiosity: What do your kids schools use for 1:1 Devices? - d4 - 01-31-2022
C(-)ris wrote:
[quote=d4]
What do you mean by "1:1 Devices" ?
My kids are 8 and 11. Elementary and Middle School. Both my kids are lent (for the school year) locked down Chromebooks and chargers. They carry the Chromebooks back and forth to school and home. Returning them at the end of the school year.
Upper middle class area. High taxes due to the schools.
Those are 1:1 devices. 1:1 device programs mean that a school or district has provided a device to all students.
Got it. These Chromebooks are not going to win any design awards, but they are surprisingly tough. I've seen third graders, drop them by accident, carry them open by the screen, bash on keys, yank on cords, etc. They take them out on the school bus. Shove them back into backpacks. No protective case or cover. Pretty impressive!