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Re: Judeo-Christian Tradition? - anonymouse1 - 09-10-2022
I prefer "Abrahamic"--suonds more distinguished! And it's more inclusive.....
Re: Judeo-Christian Tradition? - Dennis S - 09-10-2022
I think the evangelicals drafted them to make their team look bigger.
Re: Judeo-Christian Tradition? - kj - 09-10-2022
I don't think it came from Evangelicals. The first place I heard the term was in college, and it was used to side-step religion. Sort of to separate the values from religion. It applied to stuff most people wouldn't quibble with (try not to kill people, etc.).
Re: Judeo-Christian Tradition? - pdq - 09-10-2022
kj wrote:
I don't think it came from Evangelicals. The first place I heard the term was in college, and it was used to side-step religion. Sort of to separate the values from religion. It applied to stuff most people wouldn't quibble with (try not to kill people, etc.).
…unlike all the other non-Judeo-Christian religions which teach death to all others, like, say, buddhists.
Re: Judeo-Christian Tradition? - Lemon Drop - 09-10-2022
anonymouse1 wrote:
I prefer "Abrahamic"--suonds more distinguished! And it's more inclusive.....
Also should not be used. Theologically makes a hot mess. Basically an idea concocted to superimpose connection and community on faith traditions that are uniquely individual.
Re: Judeo-Christian Tradition? - Lemon Drop - 09-10-2022
kj wrote:
I don't think it came from Evangelicals. The first place I heard the term was in college, and it was used to side-step religion. Sort of to separate the values from religion. It applied to stuff most people wouldn't quibble with (try not to kill people, etc.).
No it definitely did not originate with modern day evangelicals. They co-opted the term, changed the original meaning.
Earliest documented use is from 1820s, and it referred to people who converted from Judaism to Christianity.
Re: Judeo-Christian Tradition? - Acer - 09-10-2022
pdq wrote:
[quote=kj]
I don't think it came from Evangelicals. The first place I heard the term was in college, and it was used to side-step religion. Sort of to separate the values from religion. It applied to stuff most people wouldn't quibble with (try not to kill people, etc.).
…unlike all the other non-Judeo-Christian religions which teach death to all others, like, say, buddhists.
Buddhism and violence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence
Re: Judeo-Christian Tradition? - dk62 - 09-12-2022
Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=anonymouse1]
I prefer "Abrahamic"--suonds more distinguished! And it's more inclusive.....
Also should not be used. Theologically makes a hot mess. Basically an idea concocted to superimpose connection and community on faith traditions that are uniquely individual.
I thought the term just denotes the common origins of the three religions, resulting in some similarities, particularly regarding creation and similar "early events." The divergence later on is significant and differentiates individual religions more clearly. But both temporally and in presumption of existence and assumed importance of Jesus, Islam is closer to Christianity than Judaism. I am sure there are other areas where the reverse is true.
Re: Judeo-Christian Tradition? - JoeH - 09-12-2022
dk62 wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
[quote=anonymouse1]
I prefer "Abrahamic"--suonds more distinguished! And it's more inclusive.....
Also should not be used. Theologically makes a hot mess. Basically an idea concocted to superimpose connection and community on faith traditions that are uniquely individual.
I thought the term just denotes the common origins of the three religions, resulting in some similarities, particularly regarding creation and similar "early events." The divergence later on is significant and differentiates individual religions more clearly. But both temporally and in presumption of existence and assumed importance of Jesus, Islam is closer to Christianity than Judaism. I am sure there are other areas where the reverse is true.
The term could just denote that, but historically it has been used for other purposes outside of academia. Lately it has been co-opted by the reactionary Christian right.
Re: Judeo-Christian Tradition? - kj - 09-14-2022
Oddly, I have not heard use of the term in an evangelical church. It may be more of a political thing, which only has some overlap with actual churches.
I could perhaps see the term being used because Jesus was a Jew, but I have never heard this use. Otherwise, I can't see why anyone would use the term in a Christian church. "Christian Values". Why give a nod to something else? It's got to be a political thing.
Since the pandemic I've seen a huge amount of political pollution infiltrate church, but it's still not one and the same, at all.