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Re: Ihado planning to invade Oregon - DeusxMac - 02-28-2023
kj wrote:
Eastern Oregon is a lot more like Idaho (ranching, agriculture, etc.) than the coast, so it's not really nonsense. The same is true of northern Idaho, which has a lot more in common with Washington state than southern Idaho, so I get that too, but as said, stuff like this has been going on all my life, and it doesn't happen. But it makes some sense.
That rational could be applied to every State in the Union to some degree: coastal California counties and the inland counties; southern Michigan and the Upper Peninsula, southern Florida and the Panhandle, northern Illinois and southern Illinois, etc.
Re: Ihado planning to invade Oregon - Ted King - 02-28-2023
Steve G. wrote:
[quote=Ted King]
[quote=Steve G.]
Only if they take Portland.
To this day I have no idea of what is wrong with ALL the people in Portland. (right, left and just plain insane)
To this day I have no idea what is wrong with ALL the people in New York City (right, left and just plain insane).
It does get pretty strange in places.
Portland gets pretty strange in places, too.
Re: Ihado planning to invade Oregon - Ted King - 02-28-2023
DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=kj]
Eastern Oregon is a lot more like Idaho (ranching, agriculture, etc.) than the coast, so it's not really nonsense. The same is true of northern Idaho, which has a lot more in common with Washington state than southern Idaho, so I get that too, but as said, stuff like this has been going on all my life, and it doesn't happen. But it makes some sense.
That rational could be applied to every State in the Union to some degree: coastal California counties and the inland counties; southern Michigan and the Upper Peninsula, southern Florida and the Panhandle, northern Illinois and southern Illinois, etc.
The other day I posted about homogeneity and pluralism within nations with respect to how much we should respect the "sanctity" of national borders. Should Scotland not be able to become a separate nation if a super-majority of the people vote to do so? The Scots have made significant threats to do so. And French speaking Canada?
I used the term "granularity" (in the "finely detailed" sense). In this context I mean that outside of some small areas there is usually some notable diversity of populations within a country. Sometimes those differences lead to a sentiment to split - at least on one side. We could look at it in more and more detail - more granularity - until we split families apart based on differences on what movie to watch on movie night in the ridiculous extreme.
So if the Eastern part of Oregon split off to join Idaho because most Idahoan's "conservative" values line up more with most Eastern Oregonians, what happens to the liberals in those areas that felt their representation in the Oregon state government was fine? Too bad, right. Well, why not just too bad for the Eastern Oregonians "stuck" in Oregon? What level of granularity of "too bad" should we go by?
As you say, there is no practical likelihood of a border change between Oregon and Idaho so it's kind of a moot point in this instance, but when a "splitting" is considered, I think that often the granularity problem is underappreciated.
Re: Ihado planning to invade Oregon - DeusxMac - 02-28-2023
Can we say "Balkanization"? :facepalm:
Re: Ihado planning to invade Oregon - Harbourmaster - 03-01-2023
Living in my own PRIVATE IDAHO!
Re: Ihado planning to invade Oregon - Filliam H. Muffman - 03-01-2023
I will only approve of this if Idaho combines with another state so that they lose two Senators and a Representative.
Re: Ihado planning to invade Oregon - gabester - 03-01-2023
miley-score010:Filliam H. Muffman wrote:
I will only approve of this if Idaho combines with another state so that they lose two Senators and a Representative.
Re: Ihado planning to invade Oregon - kj - 03-01-2023
DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=kj]
Eastern Oregon is a lot more like Idaho (ranching, agriculture, etc.) than the coast, so it's not really nonsense. The same is true of northern Idaho, which has a lot more in common with Washington state than southern Idaho, so I get that too, but as said, stuff like this has been going on all my life, and it doesn't happen. But it makes some sense.
That rational could be applied to every State in the Union to some degree: coastal California counties and the inland counties; southern Michigan and the Upper Peninsula, southern Florida and the Panhandle, northern Illinois and southern Illinois, etc.
Sure, but it's not stupid. It's not just conservative vs liberal, it's also economic, and other more practical things. Nothing wrong with advocating for something you think might work better for you.
Re: Ihado planning to invade Oregon - DeusxMac - 03-01-2023
kj wrote:
Nothing wrong with advocating for something you think might work better for you.
Said every slave holder in 1850.
Re: Ihado planning to invade Oregon - kj - 03-01-2023
DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=kj]
Nothing wrong with advocating for something you think might work better for you.
Said every slave holder in 1850.
Geez, yeah, that's the same thing.
Plus, that wasn't stupid, it was immoral.