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Re: In New York only 19% of primary voters don't want Trump - RgrF - 04-03-2024
Black wrote:Protest vote/free Palestine. I think there may be plenty of that.
[quote=macphanatic]
My neighbor's daughter, who supported Bernie and then Biden, told her parents and me that she's voting Trump this year. A 24 year old, female liberal is now voting Republican. I didn't get to ask her why but will when I have a chance.
Bernie should have Biden's ear on Gaza, he doesn't he's shut out by aiPAC money.
Re: In New York only 19% of primary voters don't want Trump - bfd - 04-03-2024
Mr645 wrote:
It would be amazing if NY flipped Red.
Every day many many Americans realize how much better life was with Trump in office.
Re: In New York only 19% of primary voters don't want Trump - $tevie - 04-03-2024
Black wrote:Protest vote/free Palestine. I think there may be plenty of that.
[quote=macphanatic]
My neighbor's daughter, who supported Bernie and then Biden, told her parents and me that she's voting Trump this year. A 24 year old, female liberal is now voting Republican. I didn't get to ask her why but will when I have a chance.
Yep, it's a single-issue-voter thing. I am surprised that at her age she is putting Palestine over her right to control her own body, but it's a free country.
Re: In New York only 19% of primary voters don't want Trump - DeusxMac - 04-03-2024
Mr645 wrote:
The WH did ban religious symbols for Easter
Look up when that practice actually started.
Hell, I'll do it for you as a public service...
"Biden did not ban religious-themed eggs for the contest. The contest is overseen by the American Egg Board, which has prohibited religious designs for any White House Easter event since the board was created in 1976, when Republican Gerald Ford was president."
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/apr/01/kristi-noem/claim-that-joe-biden-banned-religious-easter-egg-d/
“We won with poorly educated…" "I love the poorly educated!"
Re: In New York only 19% of primary voters don't want Trump - macphanatic - 04-03-2024
$tevie wrote:Protest vote/free Palestine. I think there may be plenty of that.
[quote=Black]
[quote=macphanatic]
My neighbor's daughter, who supported Bernie and then Biden, told her parents and me that she's voting Trump this year. A 24 year old, female liberal is now voting Republican. I didn't get to ask her why but will when I have a chance.
Yep, it's a single-issue-voter thing. I am surprised that at her age she is putting Palestine over her right to control her own body, but it's a free country.
I know that the abortion issue had no part of this. She's been Pro-life or against abortion for years which always surprised me.
Re: In New York only 19% of primary voters don't want Trump - Ted King - 04-03-2024
$tevie wrote:Protest vote/free Palestine. I think there may be plenty of that.
[quote=Black]
[quote=macphanatic]
My neighbor's daughter, who supported Bernie and then Biden, told her parents and me that she's voting Trump this year. A 24 year old, female liberal is now voting Republican. I didn't get to ask her why but will when I have a chance.
Yep, it's a single-issue-voter thing. I am surprised that at her age she is putting Palestine over her right to control her own body, but it's a free country.
What's super-stupid is that if her vote helps Trump get elected, the Gazans will almost surely be much worse off then with Biden as president (even for how much Biden clearly leans toward Israel).
Re: In New York only 19% of primary voters don't want Trump - $tevie - 04-03-2024
Ted King wrote: What's super-stupid is that if her vote helps Trump get elected, the Gazans will almost surely be much worse off then with Biden as president (even for how much Biden clearly leans toward Israel).
Biden has to have an attitude adjustment. His current policy is not sustainable.
This article was next to the Tom Tomorrow cartoon about Lieberman that anonymouse1 posted.
How Biden Boxed Himself In on Gaza
The president draws on 50 years of unflagging support for Israel, and not even a humanitarian crisis can dislodge him from that viewpoint.
For Biden, Israel is not just a foreign-policy issue. As Haim Saban, the Israeli American businessman who’s raising millions for the re-election campaign, put it, Biden is pro-Israel in his gut. “It’s in his kishkes.”
Biden has at times been forward-thinking on domestic policy and flexible in updating his old-school thinking when it comes to anti-monopoly policy or reproductive rights. As a retail politician, he’s eager to listen to workers on the issues they care about.
On foreign policy, he has often strayed from the Washington establishment, withdrawing from Afghanistan and avoiding knee-jerk hawkishness on China. Not so on Israel and Palestine. And that willingness to buck the establishment has given him confidence in the face of outside criticism, and an allergy to changing course.
https://prospect.org/world/2024-03-28-how-biden-boxed-himself-in-on-gaza/
Re: In New York only 19% of primary voters don't want Trump - Black - 04-03-2024
$tevie wrote:
[quote=Ted King]What's super-stupid is that if her vote helps Trump get elected, the Gazans will almost surely be much worse off then with Biden as president (even for how much Biden clearly leans toward Israel).
Biden has to have an attitude adjustment. His current policy is not sustainable.
This article was next to the Tom Tomorrow cartoon about Lieberman that anonymouse1 posted.
How Biden Boxed Himself In on Gaza
The president draws on 50 years of unflagging support for Israel, and not even a humanitarian crisis can dislodge him from that viewpoint.
For Biden, Israel is not just a foreign-policy issue. As Haim Saban, the Israeli American businessman who’s raising millions for the re-election campaign, put it, Biden is pro-Israel in his gut. “It’s in his kishkes.”
Biden has at times been forward-thinking on domestic policy and flexible in updating his old-school thinking when it comes to anti-monopoly policy or reproductive rights. As a retail politician, he’s eager to listen to workers on the issues they care about.
On foreign policy, he has often strayed from the Washington establishment, withdrawing from Afghanistan and avoiding knee-jerk hawkishness on China. Not so on Israel and Palestine. And that willingness to buck the establishment has given him confidence in the face of outside criticism, and an allergy to changing course.
https://prospect.org/world/2024-03-28-how-biden-boxed-himself-in-on-gaza/ Or the "war" needs to end very soon.
But... why would the Gazans be worse off with Trump than Biden? The whack-job far righties LOOOOOOVE Israel, and nothing about Trump's prior stint in the White House suggested weakening support for Israel.
Re: In New York only 19% of primary voters don't want Trump - AllGold - 04-03-2024
Black wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
[quote=Ted King]What's super-stupid is that if her vote helps Trump get elected, the Gazans will almost surely be much worse off then with Biden as president (even for how much Biden clearly leans toward Israel).
Biden has to have an attitude adjustment. His current policy is not sustainable.
This article was next to the Tom Tomorrow cartoon about Lieberman that anonymouse1 posted.
How Biden Boxed Himself In on Gaza
The president draws on 50 years of unflagging support for Israel, and not even a humanitarian crisis can dislodge him from that viewpoint.
For Biden, Israel is not just a foreign-policy issue. As Haim Saban, the Israeli American businessman who’s raising millions for the re-election campaign, put it, Biden is pro-Israel in his gut. “It’s in his kishkes.”
Biden has at times been forward-thinking on domestic policy and flexible in updating his old-school thinking when it comes to anti-monopoly policy or reproductive rights. As a retail politician, he’s eager to listen to workers on the issues they care about.
On foreign policy, he has often strayed from the Washington establishment, withdrawing from Afghanistan and avoiding knee-jerk hawkishness on China. Not so on Israel and Palestine. And that willingness to buck the establishment has given him confidence in the face of outside criticism, and an allergy to changing course.
https://prospect.org/world/2024-03-28-how-biden-boxed-himself-in-on-gaza/ Or the "war" needs to end very soon.
But... why would the Gazans be worse off with Trump than Biden? The whack-job far righties LOOOOOOVE Israel, and nothing about Trump's prior stint in the White House suggested weakening support for Israel.
I'm confused by your question. But I'll just say because PAB45 is even more pro-Israel and pro-BiBi and has none of the humanitarian concerns that Biden has.
Re: In New York only 19% of primary voters don't want Trump - Lux Interior - 04-03-2024
Black wrote: The whack-job far righties LOOOOOOVE Israel,
More that they think they need Israel to bring about he end times.