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Re: So it appears SpaceX made the same mistake twice now, in losing Starship.... - vision63 - 03-08-2025
sekker wrote:
Elmo has been super quiet on the cause of this failure.
I think it’s a sign that he thinks this lack of progress is due to him spending all of the time with DOGE.
I think he’s singular of his generation keeping people focused.
At the same time, Starship is perhaps the hardest technical challenge ever attempted in rocket engineering.
They did capture the booster this time. For any other company, that would be something to celebrate.
As a layman, I'm gonna believe that it was harder when they were using slide rules.
Re: So it appears SpaceX made the same mistake twice now, in losing Starship.... - Tiangou - 03-08-2025
vision63 wrote:
[quote=sekker]
Elmo has been super quiet on the cause of this failure.
I think it’s a sign that he thinks this lack of progress is due to him spending all of the time with DOGE.
I think he’s singular of his generation keeping people focused.
At the same time, Starship is perhaps the hardest technical challenge ever attempted in rocket engineering.
They did capture the booster this time. For any other company, that would be something to celebrate.
As a layman, I'm gonna believe that it was harder when they were using slide rules.
Slide rules are for quick ballparking. The typical slide rule is only good to 3 decimals. Yes, the (male) engineers used them extensively at NASA in the early days of the space program. An engineer without a slide rule was practically naked back in the day.
But women did the useful calculations, usually in the basement, often on paper in long-hand. And they programmed the flight computers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Darden#NASA's_%22human_computers%22
Re: So it appears SpaceX made the same mistake twice now, in losing Starship.... - GGD - 03-09-2025
One thing this failure showed was that it was a reproducible bug, so it should be easier to find.
Re: So it appears SpaceX made the same mistake twice now, in losing Starship.... - NewtonMP2100 - 03-09-2025
....he really likes to....reproduce......
Re: So it appears SpaceX made the same mistake twice now, in losing Starship.... - TheTominator - 03-09-2025
Maybe they'll have better luck after renaming it to Jefferson Airplane.
Re: So it appears SpaceX made the same mistake twice now, in losing Starship.... - ztirffritz - 03-09-2025
I interpret this as a successful failure. They’ve learned that the failure mode isn’t what they thought or is different from what they thought. What sucks is that they have 2 or 3 ships in various stages of production already that may or may not have the same flaws built into them.
Re: So it appears SpaceX made the same mistake twice now, in losing Starship.... - jonny - 03-09-2025
Same bug twice?
Failed failure.