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Re: Is Obama Another Dukakis? By Christopher Hitchens - freeradical - 09-23-2008
$tevie wrote:
No, McCain was a darling of Democratic centrists about 8 years ago. Then he sold his soul to the neocons, changed his positions to placate them, and the centrists lost interest.
The NYT endorsed him - that is until he won the nomination.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/opinion/25fri2.html?scp=2&sq=presidential%20endorsements%20mccain&st=cse
Re: Is Obama Another Dukakis? By Christopher Hitchens - mikeylikesit - 09-23-2008
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Re: Is Obama Another Dukakis? By Christopher Hitchens - mikeylikesit - 09-23-2008
freeradical wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
No, McCain was a darling of Democratic centrists about 8 years ago. Then he sold his soul to the neocons, changed his positions to placate them, and the centrists lost interest.
The NYT endorsed him - that is until he won the nomination.
You despise the NYTimes, you forget that?
Re: Is Obama Another Dukakis? By Christopher Hitchens - mattkime - 09-23-2008
$tevie wrote:
No, McCain was a darling of Democratic centrists about 8 years ago. Then he sold his soul to the neocons, changed his positions to placate them, and the centrists lost interest.
ding ding ding! we have a winner1
Re: Is Obama Another Dukakis? By Christopher Hitchens - guitarist - 09-23-2008
He sold his soul? I didn't realize the price for political campaigns had gotten so high.
I'd heard rumors that the neocons were holding a Black Mass in the basement of the Capitol Building, but I dismissed it. Maybe the rumors are true?
Re: Is Obama Another Dukakis? By Christopher Hitchens - $tevie - 09-23-2008
freeradical wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
No, McCain was a darling of Democratic centrists about 8 years ago. Then he sold his soul to the neocons, changed his positions to placate them, and the centrists lost interest.
The NYT endorsed him - that is until he won the nomination.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/opinion/25fri2.html?scp=2&sq=presidential%20endorsements%20mccain&st=cse
First of all, when did you change your mind and decide that the Times is a centrist publication? I thought it was a Leftie paper?
Second of all, it's obvious that that endorsement is a very grudging endorsement. They come right out and say that they felt obligated to make an endorsement so they chose McCain as the least bad candidate running in 2008. It's hardly a ringing endorsement.
Re: Is Obama Another Dukakis? By Christopher Hitchens - guitarist - 09-23-2008
Who cares about endorsements outside washington DC, and in news offices? Maybe there was a time when American voters (the literate ones, others would wait for the TV or radio version) would wait until their trusty Newspaper Editorial Board would come forward with their official endorsement, so they would have a guide to voting choices, but not in my adult lifetime, and I'm not a young guy.