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Re: it's CHO (show) time!. . .Margaret Cho writes a song in response to Miley Cyrus slanty eye pic. . . - Paul F. - 02-12-2009
It was a 16 year old girl being silly.
It wasn't right. She should be chastised for it. She has been. Now it's time to move on.
If she was 18, it would STILL be time to move on.
19? 21? Spend some more time on it... that's old enough to know better, and not "be silly".
25? 30+? Legitimate to hang on to the story for quite some time... let her serve as an example to the 16-20 year olds of behavior that is NOT OK.
But she's 16... acting like a silly girl with her friend. She's been called out on it. Time to move on.
Re: it's CHO (show) time!. . .Margaret Cho writes a song in response to Miley Cyrus slanty eye pic. . . - NewtonMP2100 - 02-12-2009
pRICE cUBE wrote:
As I have observed working in the media and ethnic/racial classes and seminars I have been a part of, mocking Asian-Americans in general is much more tolerated than other groups. Remember when Shaquille O'Neal made fun of Yao Ming? Now imagine the outrage had someone "Acted and talked Black" that was not African American. Shaq was branded as "A guy just kidding around" while making fun of African Americans is deemed, and rightly so, racially insensitive.
There are stupid things you do with friends, but don't take a picture of it. Assume any of your "friends" are willing to sell you out with camera in hand at any moment for $.
I have fun with racial jokes around here but that is amongst friends. I am not running for public office or famous and dependent on sales of crappy tween music and cheap plastic labeled Hanah Montana crap made in China. Sorry Miley, it's not ok just because you have an Asian friend. The standard for people trying to sell an brand all over the world is different. It comes withe fame, money and paparazzi.
. . .I agree. . .it is easy to say that 'slanty eyes' pic or comment is nothing but asians that I know say they consider it the same as the 'N...' word. . .so it seems to be acceptable to do this and then just say it is just a kid being a kid but somewhere along the line she learned it was o.k. to do this type of 'kidding'. . .IMHO ..
Re: it's CHO (show) time!. . .Margaret Cho writes a song in response to Miley Cyrus slanty eye pic. . . - pRICE cUBE - 02-12-2009
Paul F. wrote:
It was a 16 year old girl being silly.
It wasn't right. She should be chastised for it. She has been. Now it's time to move on.
If she was 18, it would STILL be time to move on.
19? 21? Spend some more time on it... that's old enough to know better, and not "be silly".
25? 30+? Legitimate to hang on to the story for quite some time... let her serve as an example to the 16-20 year olds of behavior that is NOT OK.
But she's 16... acting like a silly girl with her friend. She's been called out on it. Time to move on.
No, she is not just a 16 year old, she is a 16 year old money making machine for her family and Disney. She has fame and public perception to deal with. This is not just some kid off the street. For better or worse, she accepts all that comes with this fame and consequences to her actions when she accepts these millions.
Let's say she has done something in that photo that made fun of a stereotyped feature of African Americans, we would be hearing a lot more outage and calls for boycotts.
Does it offend me what she did? No, but I think she is stupid for her to let someone take her picture doing it. Does it offend many other people, quite possibly and they have a right to express their opinion. I don't think it came from a malicious place but it sure stoked the memories in my mind of getting beat up as a kid for these eyes that are on my face.
Re: it's CHO (show) time!. . .Margaret Cho writes a song in response to Miley Cyrus slanty eye pic. . . - Paul F. - 02-13-2009
pRICE cUBE wrote:
No, she is not just a 16 year old, she is a 16 year old money making machine for her family and Disney. She has fame and public perception to deal with. This is not just some kid off the street. For better or worse, she accepts all that comes with this fame and consequences to her actions when she accepts these millions.
Still a 16 year old girl... still silly... still playing with another 16 year old silly girl.
Yes, she is in the public eye.
Yes, she makes more in a year than we will probably in our entire lives.
That doesn't change the fact that she's a 16 year old girl.
Let's say she has done something in that photo that made fun of a stereotyped feature of African Americans, we would be hearing a lot more outage and calls for boycotts.
Yes, we would. And that would not be right either.
Like I said; she should be chastised for her behavior, and hopefully have it reinforced that that behavior is NOT OK... even with a friend (asian friend, or african-american friend, or jewish friend, or whatever else).
Then it's time to get over it already. She's already been held up as a bad example. Good. She should be. It was stupid. 16 year olds are stupid once in a while. Kinda the nature of the beast...
Smack her on the nose with a rolled up newspaper, and move on.
This should not be sparking boycotts, riots, white teenage girl burnings, or causing acne.
Point to her and tell your (collective "your" not, like, you specifically) kids "see that... that was wrong, a bad stereotype, and hurtful... I hope her parents have told her the same thing now".
Does it offend me what she did? No, but I think she is stupid for her to let someone take her picture doing it. Does it offend many other people, quite possibly and they have a right to express their opinion. I don't think it came from a malicious place but it sure stoked the memories in my mind of getting beat up as a kid for these eyes that are on my face.
And I got beat up because I was overweight...
And when people tell fat jokes, I get over it.
If they're 16, I can forgive them. They're 16, the stupid is genetic. If they're older, the stupid is a choice, and I might hold a grudge. Unless the joke is really funny, of course (and yes, I'm kidding...).