![]() |
Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - Printable Version +- MacResource (https://forums.macresource.com) +-- Forum: My Category (https://forums.macresource.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Tips and Deals (https://forums.macresource.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Thread: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. (/showthread.php?tid=76526) |
Re: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - cbelt3 - 04-16-2009 AD- Good PSA. And Dennis- My wife and daughter both have reflux and have had upper endoscopies to confirm it and rule out other reasons- the gold test is actually looking at it, at least according to our family doc. And finally- find the Bill Cosby segment "Tonsils". And repeat after me... "Ice Cream ! We're gonna eat Ice Cream !" Re: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - jesse - 04-16-2009 I don't think you always get the burning with acid reflux, I went to my doctor complaining of upper back and chest pains and one of the first things he asked me was if I'd been having a lot of heartburn lately, to which I replied no, he did diagnosis esophageal spasms caused by acid reflux and prescribed Prevacid which seems to be taking care of it. Re: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - Jimmypoo - 04-16-2009 I'm surprised he Rx'd Zantac, when to really get a good idea, it should have been coupled with Prevacid. The Zantac will work immediately on acid secretion from stomach, but comparatively, H2 antagonists like Zantac & Pepcid are candy compared to the proton pump inhibitors like Prevacid. Still --- looking down that allergy trail (which can VANISH the moment you get into the shower and out of bed), you should consider getting a new set of pillows (or washing in hot, your current ones, and drying on med/delicate 2 or 3 cycles so you don't melt them into something uncomfy) - and then put the $6 Tyvek zippered covers on them (that are also lined on the inside with clear polyethylene). The dust might angle is so overlooked - for drainage and other symptoms. Mine got worse every year for about 5 years, until I was practically ER'd at the doc office, while they treated symptoms Symptoms SYMPTOMS -- and I finally met a Clinical Research Assistant who was testing out a drug for COPD - and I asked how they eliminate other causes, and she told me.... •New pillows (and washed every other week WITH the Tyvek covers used, or every other DAY, without) •sheets and blankets, etc., WASHED every DAY •New mattress and REGARDLESS, $40 Tyvek zippered cover for the bed (4lbs of skin per person shed that goes into mattress - and the dust mites LOVE it -but your lungs and sinuses do NOT) NOTE -- this was the criteria for being in a drug trial for COPD. When she told me that, I was being gassed with cortisone and albuterol, plus oral corts, plus daily antibiotics (cycle between the various high power fluoroquinolones - the stuff for "anthrax"). Instead - I went to WalMart --- after the nebulizer became part of my day & nightmare, and bought new pillows and a $4 cheap vinyl mattress cover for bed wetters. That same day I also had a CAT scan of my sinuses looking for Bob only knows....... Within 24 hours I stopped wheezing. Read that again. When I looked at things after 48 hours, I was able to peg the "breathoblaster" for lung strength. ALL BECAUSE OF PILLOWS AND MATTRESS. For half a decade everyone blamed everything except what was right in front of them, subjected me to tests that included radiography, etc. instead of asking a few simple questions... like: -How often do you wash your pillows? -Do you have animals that sleep on the bed? -Do you notice more problems at night than day? Do your research ----- know the options of your symptoms, and make sure that what YOU want to know gets looked at, not just what THEY want to know. I've not had to use ANY inhalers or even allergy Rx for the above - because I buy new pillows and wash my bedding every couple of days (in addition to the Tyvek pillow & mattress BAGS). And I mention that - because the drip will irritate your throat as well. Re: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - Racer X - 04-16-2009 Oh, come on now. I know why you REALLY have that vinyl cover on your mattress......... Re: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - Janit - 04-16-2009 It sounds like you may have what is known as "laryngeal reflux." This is a variety of gastrointestinal reflux that does not have the more common symptoms of heartburn, etc. The excess acidity is centered in the larynx rather than in the esophagus proper, and the syndrome is not as well known. Laryngeal reflux can be a bit of a vicious cycle -- the acid causes chronic irritation of the larynx, and the laryngeal irritation causes stress that provokes more reflux. For this reason, laryngeal reflux is usually treated by proton pump inhibitors like Prevacid or Prilosec --they stop the cycle by eliminating the acid in your stomach. It usually takes several months for the coughing etc to clear up, as the larynx takes time to heal. Some people find that they can stop taking the medication after several months, with no recurrence. Others find that they need to stay on the medications long term to control the symptoms. I actually had laryngeal reflux myself for a long time and didn't know what it was -- constant throat-clearing with no obvious cause. Fortunately for me, I then developed burning stomach pains, and was prescribed Prevacid to treat the "heartburn." The Prevacid didn't help the burning stomach, but the throat-clearing mysteriously cleared up ![]() The burning stomach was some kind of stress-related inflammation, NOT acid reflux, and Tai Chi and meditation turned out to be the most effective treatment. I still experience occasional laryngeal irritation, but not the chronic cough I had before. Re: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - mrbigstuff - 04-17-2009 Jimmypoo wrote: holy sh!t. I have to go out and get those things. I have been fighting reflux/sinus issues for years (the reflux has been nearly 10 years, the sinus thing for the past 5 or 6). thanks for the PSA, jp Re: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - Dennis S - 04-17-2009 Here's a list of the 2 types of antacids: Proton pump inhibitors: Omeprazole (Prilosec) Lansoprazole (Prevacid) Esomeprazole (Nexium) H2 antagonists: Cimetidine (Tagamet) Ranitidine (Zantac) Famotidine (Pepcid) Nizatidine (Axid) Proton pump inhibitors are the preferred treatment for erosive esophagitis since they have been shown to promote healing better than H2-antagonists. My dial-up is pokey tonight. Is there one of the generic proton pump inhibitors that is reasonably priced if the generic Zantac I'm taking doesn't work? I have read that what my doctor is talking about is called "silent" GERD, which I guess means there are no burning sensations. It is all in the upper throat, so I hope that mostly eliminates the esophagus problems alphadog was talking about. Re: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - AlphaDog - 04-17-2009 Prilosec is now an OTC med, and it's not too expensive when bought at Costco, and probably Sam's, although I've never been to one of those. Costco even has it on sale occasionally. There is another form of esophageal cancer that's higher in the esophagus, and the cause is slightly different. A friend's husband died of that form, and he was also stage IV by the time it was diagnosed. Trust me. Talk to your doctor and have this evaluated properly by a gastroenterologist. Better safe than sorry. Since my husband's diagnosis, I've heard of a number of other people who been diagnosed with one or the other forms, and the five year survival rate is very low for those who don't learn about the condition until it's advanced. And please don't misunderstand; I'm not diagnosing you by any means, but I've learned first hand how insidious this type of cancer is, so I strongly encourage you to have a decent understanding of it so you aren't tempted take it too lightly. Do more reading, but I'll start with this quote: "Definition of esophageal cancer: Cancer that forms in tissues lining the esophagus (the muscular tube through which food passes from the throat to the stomach). Two types of esophageal cancer are squamous cell carcinoma (cancer that begins in flat cells lining the esophagus) and adenocarcinoma (cancer that begins in cells that make and release mucus and other fluids). Estimated new cases and deaths from esophageal cancer in the United States in 2008: New cases: 16,470 Deaths: 14,280 and "Early esophageal cancer may not cause symptoms. As the cancer grows, the most common symptoms are: * Food gets stuck in the esophagus, and food may come back up * Pain when swallowing * Pain in the chest or back * Weight loss * Heartburn * A hoarse voice or cough that doesn't go away within 2 weeks These symptoms may be caused by esophageal cancer or other health problems. If you have any of these symptoms, you should tell your doctor so that problems can be diagnosed and treated as early as possible. Here's a link to more information on the site for the National Cancer Institute. http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/wyntk/esophagus/page4 I apologize if I sound like some sort of alarmist, but learning about this really rocked my world, and I just can't let anybody else go through that if there's a way to avoid it! Re: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - Dennis S - 04-17-2009 Thanks, alphadog. I will see about it, but I don't have insurance, so I don't know how far I can go. Re: Raspy vocal cords, constant throat clearing, sharp pain - doc says it's reflux. - Janit - 04-17-2009 Laryngeal reflux is the technical term for a variety of "silent" GERD. If you do need a specialist, you might ultimately need a laryngologist, who would understand the connection between the larynx and the gut. Many regular ENTs or gastroenterologists still don't. |