+- MacResource (https://forums.macresource.com)
+-- Forum: My Category (https://forums.macresource.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: Tips and Deals (https://forums.macresource.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=3)
+--- Thread: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? (/showthread.php?tid=134042)
Re: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? - Grateful11 - 03-27-2012
The only one I ever went to told me right up front that if I didn't see an improvement after 7 or 8 visits
then he couldn't help me, there was no improvement.
Re: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? - hal - 03-27-2012
Fred_Also wrote:wimp!
I went in one time and mentioned that my sinuses were really clogged that day. No problem, he pulled put this thing that was shaped like a gun and had a big rubber chair tip on the end. He cocked that thing and put it to my forehead and pulled the trigger. It whumped me pretty good. He did the other side of my forehead and once on each side of my nose.
I will admit that my sinuses drained better for a couple of hours.
When I got to the receptionist she ask how it went & I said pretty good until I mentioned my sinuses. She said, "Oh no. You didn't let him use the 'Big Thumper' on you, did you?".
I never mentioned my sinuses to him again.
Fred
I've had a chiropractor friend for 25 years. She'd do this thingy to me during allergy season and it worked very well. It's not magic - a quick jarring thump to the precise area loosens things up in there. She's retired now, but I will still do that technique on my own when needed.
I can't believe that so many here have never seen a good chiropractor. My god, you just don't know what you are missing.
But she never pushed ANYTHING beyond her care. Every time I'd ask about if a drug that I might have on hand would be of any help, she'd ALWAYS remind me that she can't and WON'T prescribe any drugs.
Keep hydrated - that's the only thing she'd tell me as I was going out the door.
Re: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? - Dennis S - 03-28-2012
I have had good luck with them for several ailments. A friend's dad was one. My friend said there were 2 kinds - good ones and bad ones. The bad ones went to seminars where they taught you how to squeeze money out of people. They usually used the "thumpers", he said, which according to him were useless on the back. His dad fixed my neck when 7 rounds of physical therapy at the doctor's office didn't touch it.
Re: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? - Chakravartin - 03-28-2012
hal wrote:
I can't believe that so many here have never seen a good chiropractor. My god, you just don't know what you are missing.
'Looks like the only things I'm missing are paralysis and death.
http://www.jpsmjournal.com/article/S0885-3924%2807%2900783-X/abstract
The core concepts of chiropractic, subluxation and spinal manipulation, are not based on sound science. Back and neck pain are the domains of chiropractic but many chiropractors treat conditions other than musculoskeletal problems. With the possible exception of back pain, chiropractic spinal manipulation has not been shown to be effective for any medical condition. Manipulation is associated with frequent mild adverse effects and with serious complications of unknown incidence. Its cost-effectiveness has not been demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt. The concepts of chiropractic are not based on solid science and its therapeutic value has not been demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/75754.php
According to a study published in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine, spinal manipulation should not be used routinely. Routine use of spinal manipulation on the upper spine could result in serious complications, such as stroke, and even death.
Lead researcher Edzard Ernst, Professor of Complementary Medicine at Peninsular Medical School, Universities of Exeter and Plymouth, said "Even allowing for an extraordinarily high level of under-reporting, spinal manipulation has been associated with about 600 serious adverse events. In addition, it causes non-serious adverse effects in about 50 percent of all patients who use it. If any drug were linked to such rates of harm, I somehow doubt that it would still be on the market."
Re: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? - Dennis S - 03-28-2012
600? Don't doctors and hospitals cause over 100,000 deaths a year? (And I'm pretty sure those are probably under-reported.)
Re: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? - Linda2 - 03-28-2012
Years ago, I suffered from chronic migraines - 3 or 4 a week. My chiropractor could stop them if I got to him in time (which, unfortunately, rarely happened). I have also used him for back pain with good results.
I stopped going, however, when he persuaded a desperate woman with a teenage son who was dying of some form of cancer, to stop all medical treatment and let him do spinal adjustments and give vitamin therapy. Of course, the boy died much sooner than he should have and he was in unnecessary pain. I never went back. This doctor did not seem to have an ethical standard and I don't think he was an exception.
While chiropractors are good at relieving back pain, other advice they give should be carefully checked out especially if they recommend terminating medical care.
Re: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? - Chakravartin - 03-28-2012
Dennis S wrote:
600? Don't doctors and hospitals cause over 100,000 deaths a year? (And I'm pretty sure those are probably under-reported.)
The statistic is from England, which has a population less than 1/6th that of the U.S.
Yes, medical malpractice is proximate cause of around 100,000 untimely deaths each year in the United States.
And about a quarter million people in the U.S. are injured due to hospital negligence... A little less than 1% of the number of patients treated each year.
Extrapolate those figures to England if you want. It's a simple math game...
And extrapolate the other figure to the U.S. and you still get 50% of all chiropractic patients being injured by their course of treatment.
Re: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? - Black - 03-28-2012
Chakravartin wrote:
And extrapolate the other figure to the U.S. and you still get 50% of all chiropractic patients being injured by their course of treatment.
Re: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? - Dennis S - 03-28-2012
Do you have more than one source for the 50% number? I know it's anecdotal, but I know lots of people who have seen a chiropractor and zero have ever said they had a problem. I am leery of numbers about them because I know there are all kinds of people and organizations out to get them.
Re: chiropractic: ever had it solve a problem not related to your spine? - Chakravartin - 03-28-2012
Dennis S wrote: ...I know there are all kinds of people and organizations out to get them.
Huh?
All kinds of organizations out to get them?
Seriously?
They sell massage at a markup as a "medical" treatment and preach a religion about dangerous spinal-manipulation curing all known diseases.
They hardly need detractors.
The profession is a bad joke. It's where college dropouts go when their parents threaten to kick them out of the house if they don't go back to finish a degree.
It ought to be outlawed. It's quackery at its worst.