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Re: Mr Smith said his message for owners of ''keyless''cars - not just Mazda models - was to educate themselves on how t - DeusxMac - 12-19-2014

Being in their late 60s should not be one of the factors offered in the explanation of how they got into their situation. 80s or 90s OK.


Re: Mr Smith said his message for owners of ''keyless''cars - not just Mazda models - was to educate themselves on how t - Jack D. - 12-20-2014

I just mentioned this article to the wife and pointed out that our BMW does the pull twice to unlock thing. She said she wouldn't have thought of that but would have pulled wildly at the handle several times. My point being that many modern "appliances" operate by multiplexing the controls. What may be painfully obvious to one generation is a mystery to others. Like finding the desktop in Windows 8. Well you just hover the cursor over here and the menu appears. Sure, but very much not an intuitive maneuver.

All I can say is wait until you get to be their age and apply today's technology rules to what's coming and see if you can survive. It's not as clearcut as you may think.


Re: Mr Smith said his message for owners of ''keyless''cars - not just Mazda models - was to educate themselves on how t - RAMd®d - 12-20-2014

I just went out to our 'new' (to us) 2013 Ford Expedition, got in and used the power lock button to lock the doors. Then I pulled the handle on the driver's side door: opened right up.

Yes.

I'm very well aware that most if not all Ford doors will open when locked, even with the power off. It's a Ford thing, and I like it.

Now go out and try to do the same in a 2007 Chevy Avalanche, a 2006 Honda Ridgeline, a 2013 Subaru. Different story. I know there are many, many other examples of that.

The safety aspect is probably a matter of perspective. In an emergency, you'd want to be able to get out of the car as quickly as possible without hassling an unlock mechanism. One the other hand, you wouldn't want the door to be accidentally (?) opened while the vehicle is moving. (The Avalanche has to be in Park or the doors can't be opened.)


Re: Mr Smith said his message for owners of ''keyless''cars - not just Mazda models - was to educate themselves on how t - RAMd®d - 12-20-2014

and pointed out that our BMW does the pull twice to unlock thing.

Huh.

I've never heard of that.

Of course, that doesn't mean I doubt your word, LOL.


All I can say is wait until you get to be their age and apply today's technology rules to what's coming and see if you can survive. It's not as clearcut as you may think.

Exactly.

Some people suffer from the It Is Until It Isn't Syndrome.


Re: Mr Smith said his message for owners of ''keyless''cars - not just Mazda models - was to educate themselves on how t - CW2V - 12-20-2014



CW2V


Re: Mr Smith said his message for owners of ''keyless''cars - not just Mazda models - was to educate themselves on how t - Paul F. - 12-20-2014

Don't know why y'all insist on ignoring the obvious in favor of double-pumping the handle, or magic incantations...

After a couple hours, I would think anyone competent to own a vehicle should have tried this.
The control locations are substantively the same as every vehicle I've owned since 1986.




Re: Mr Smith said his message for owners of ''keyless''cars - not just Mazda models - was to educate themselves on how t - Article Accelerator - 12-20-2014

Paul F. wrote: I would think anyone competent to own a vehicle should have tried this.

There you go. I don't think those old people should be driving. They both seem to be non compos mentis.


Re: Mr Smith said his message for owners of ''keyless''cars - not just Mazda models - was to educate themselves on how t - Paul F. - 12-20-2014

Article Accelerator wrote:
There you go. I don't think those old people should be driving. They both seem to be non compos mentis.

SO you think a couple people that can't figure THIS out;



In TWELVE HOURS should NOT have their competence QUESTIONED?

We're not talking about a few minutes, or even an hour (and feeling dumb). Or even two or three hours...
TWELVE HOURS.

Flip.
Pull.
I think a short visit with a mental health professional for a quick chat is not really unreasonable.


Re: Mr Smith said his message for owners of ''keyless''cars - not just Mazda models - was to educate themselves on how t - N-OS X-tasy! - 12-20-2014

M A V I C wrote:
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
FWIW... I drive a keyless vehicle -- the door locks automatically engage when I reach 15 MPH and they do NOT unlock when I engage the interior door handle.

Even if you pull it twice? I haven't been in many cars, but I've never seen one that wouldn't unlock without pulling it once or twice.
Even if I pull it twice.


Re: Mr Smith said his message for owners of ''keyless''cars - not just Mazda models - was to educate themselves on how t - Article Accelerator - 12-20-2014

Paul F. wrote: SO you think a couple people that can't figure THIS out

Paul, I'm agreeing with you. :argh: