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Re: [DFLG] Do planes have to speed up to land? - N-OS X-tasy! - 11-20-2015
flareslow wrote:
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Re: [DFLG] Do planes have to speed up to land? - flareslow - 11-20-2015
I'm sorry, but I must correct this bit of misunderstanding. Parts of this describe the general Idea of what is happening but some of it is wrong.
testcase wrote:During the flare, when properly executed, the aircraft is never close to stalling. If we did get close to stall that close to the ground, we would experience a tail strike. Those can be pretty expensive.
At the proper time, the pilot "flares" the aircraft (pulls the nose up) which reduces the aircraft's speed to the point where the aircraft stalls and falls out of the sky. When done properly, said "fall out of the sky" is done at (or very close) to the ground.
To be clear, the original post was about large commercial aircraft, and we don't operate that close to the edge when carrying passengers.
Re: [DFLG] Do planes have to speed up to land? - nwyaker - 11-20-2015
flareslow wrote:During the flare, when properly executed, the aircraft is never close to stalling. If we did get close to stall that close to the ground, we would experience a tail strike. Those can be pretty expensive.
I'm sorry, but I must correct this bit of misunderstanding. Parts of this describe the general Idea of what is happening but some of it is wrong.
[quote=testcase]
At the proper time, the pilot "flares" the aircraft (pulls the nose up) which reduces the aircraft's speed to the point where the aircraft stalls and falls out of the sky. When done properly, said "fall out of the sky" is done at (or very close) to the ground.
To be clear, the original post was about large commercial aircraft, and we don't operate that close to the edge when carrying passengers.
:agree:
PPSEL here
Re: [DFLG] Do planes have to speed up to land? - thermarest - 11-20-2015
Original post didn't actually specify type and weather px carrying or not, but yes I think we all correctly understood it to mean a large commercial jet.
Pilot here as well. Landing a single engine Cessna on a short gravel strip you definitely want to hear the stall horn blaring before touch down.
flareslow wrote:
During the flare, when properly executed, the aircraft is never close to stalling. If we did get close to stall that close to the ground, we would experience a tail strike. Those can be pretty expensive.
To be clear, the original post was about large commercial aircraft, and we don't operate that close to the edge when carrying passengers.
Re: Carnos Jax reply to Black's reading about pilots applying power on final: On final approach engine power is used to control altitude, not speed. Pitch is used to control speed. If the pilot wants to go faster, push forward slightly on yolk to drop the nose and decrease angle of attack. If pilot wants to slow the rate of descent, push throttle to add power.
Re: [DFLG] Do planes have to speed up to land? - GGD - 11-20-2015
Now that that's settled, can we discuss what [DFLG] means?
Re: [DFLG] Do planes have to speed up to land? - Black - 11-21-2015
Wow, the last 10 posts were like the cavalry coming over the hill.