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Re: San Jose to tax gun owners to pay for damages caused by gun violence - DeusxMac - 07-01-2021
N-OS X-tasy! wrote:
A sales tax is entirely different thing than an ownership liability tax.
It's a "user" tax/fee. See my above on fuel taxes. Use causes damages; damages incur costs; tax/fee goes to defray those costs.
Re: San Jose to tax gun owners to pay for damages caused by gun violence - Ombligo - 07-01-2021
Don't tax the gun, don't tax the ammo - tax the fuel, aka gunpowder. That gets around the 2nd amendment, it gets around self-loaders too as no one makes their own gunpowder.
Re: San Jose to tax gun owners to pay for damages caused by gun violence - N-OS X-tasy! - 07-01-2021
DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
A sales tax is entirely different thing than an ownership liability tax.
It's a "user" tax/fee. See my above on fuel taxes. Use causes damages; damages incur costs; tax/fee goes to defray those costs.
Fuel taxes for everyone make sense because we all, more or less equally, use fuel and cause the damage associated with its use. When’s the last time you — or anybody you know to own a gun — used it to cause damage?
Re: San Jose to tax gun owners to pay for damages caused by gun violence - DeusxMac - 07-01-2021
N-OS X-tasy! wrote:
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
A sales tax is entirely different thing than an ownership liability tax.
It's a "user" tax/fee. See my above on fuel taxes. Use causes damages; damages incur costs; tax/fee goes to defray those costs.
Fuel taxes for everyone make sense because we all, more or less equally, use fuel and cause the damage associated with its use. When’s the last time you — or anybody you know to own a gun — used it to cause damage?
:RollingEyesSmiley5:
When was the last time you - or anybody you know who owns a car - caused an underground storage tank leak?
Re: San Jose to tax gun owners to pay for damages caused by gun violence - Acer - 07-01-2021
Everyone pays for schools, but we get an educated citizenry out of it.
Everyone pays for gun violence now. Our taxes are calibrated to cover the cost. But what do I gain from the presence of guns? Random homicides, dead toddlers, and maniacs in high places sniping a hundred victims out of a street festival? Why should I, who owns no guns and thus have ZERO role in any of that violence, be on the hook for its cost?
Re: San Jose to tax gun owners to pay for damages caused by gun violence - N-OS X-tasy! - 07-01-2021
DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
A sales tax is entirely different thing than an ownership liability tax.
It's a "user" tax/fee. See my above on fuel taxes. Use causes damages; damages incur costs; tax/fee goes to defray those costs.
Fuel taxes for everyone make sense because we all, more or less equally, use fuel and cause the damage associated with its use. When’s the last time you — or anybody you know to own a gun — used it to cause damage?
:RollingEyesSmiley5:
When was the last time you - or anybody you know who owns a car - caused an underground storage tank leak?
Do fuel sales tax revenues go toward paying for underground storage tank leaks? I wasn't aware of that.
(Hint: Because they don't.)
Re: San Jose to tax gun owners to pay for damages caused by gun violence - DeusxMac - 07-01-2021
N-OS X-tasy! wrote:
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
A sales tax is entirely different thing than an ownership liability tax.
It's a "user" tax/fee. See my above on fuel taxes. Use causes damages; damages incur costs; tax/fee goes to defray those costs.
Fuel taxes for everyone make sense because we all, more or less equally, use fuel and cause the damage associated with its use. When’s the last time you — or anybody you know to own a gun — used it to cause damage?
:RollingEyesSmiley5:
When was the last time you - or anybody you know who owns a car - caused an underground storage tank leak?
Do fuel sales tax revenues go toward paying for underground storage tank leaks? I wasn't aware of that.
(Hint: Because they don't.)
Are you actually reading other’s posts here? Geez, even when it’s in red!
Re: San Jose to tax gun owners to pay for damages caused by gun violence - N-OS X-tasy! - 07-01-2021
DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
A sales tax is entirely different thing than an ownership liability tax.
It's a "user" tax/fee. See my above on fuel taxes. Use causes damages; damages incur costs; tax/fee goes to defray those costs.
Fuel taxes for everyone make sense because we all, more or less equally, use fuel and cause the damage associated with its use. When’s the last time you — or anybody you know to own a gun — used it to cause damage?
:RollingEyesSmiley5:
When was the last time you - or anybody you know who owns a car - caused an underground storage tank leak?
Do fuel sales tax revenues go toward paying for underground storage tank leaks? I wasn't aware of that.
(Hint: Because they don't.)
Are you actually reading other’s posts here? Geez, even when it’s in red!
Yep, missed that one.
Re: San Jose to tax gun owners to pay for damages caused by gun violence - Racer X - 07-02-2021
most violent criminals aren't taxpayers.
Re: San Jose to tax gun owners to pay for damages caused by gun violence - Racer X - 07-02-2021
Ombligo wrote:
Don't tax the gun, don't tax the ammo - tax the fuel, aka gunpowder. That gets around the 2nd amendment, it gets around self-loaders too as no one makes their own gunpowder.
no one? really? I know how to make black powder, and "gun cotton" that's a fun one to make. don't try it at home though.
no one? really? not one of the 7+ billion humans?