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Re: Answer me this - Filliam H. Muffman - 09-20-2022
People with narcissist issues do tend to have emotional outbursts when they aren't treated as desired.
Re: Answer me this - Tiangou - 09-21-2022
PeterB wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as President, I'm not sure he had a right to have them in his possession -- classified records being the property of the government, NOT of the President. Did he have a right to access them? Yes, but that's not the same as their being in his possession or his property. (I feel like this is an important distinction to make, because if they never belonged to him in the first place, that even further proves that he had no right to take them with him after he left office.)
According to the classification of some of the documents, they aren't even meant to be accessed outside of a faraday-cage-airgapped-Sensitive-Compartmented-Information-Facility.
Re: Answer me this - $tevie - 09-21-2022
Re: Answer me this - hal - 09-21-2022
stolen from twitter:
it's great to be Tish James these days because you can get the national media on edge for what eventually turns out to be like "a guy from Brooklyn was trafficking endangered snails. we got him."
$tevie wrote:
Re: Answer me this - $tevie - 09-21-2022
Do not harsh my mellow, hal.
Re: Answer me this - vision63 - 09-21-2022
$tevie wrote:
Do not harsh my mellow, hal.
I have her working on taking down his empire.
Re: Answer me this - PeterB - 09-21-2022
RgrF wrote:
[quote=PeterB]
[quote=cbelt3]
Because the FBI and DOJ are being very very very careful. That's how they roll... they make their cases one piece of paper at a time. So there is no chance of any loophole.
This is the only answer that makes ANY sense to me. If this guy were anyone other than who he is (or more precisely, who he USED to be), he would have been long since prosecuted and locked up by now.
That and the fact he persuaded over 70 million people to vote for him, people wont want to think they were fooled and don't easily admit to that level of mistake.
As others have pointed out, they need an ironclad case, one that can be sold to the public before they indict. This close to election any move they make is fraught with danger.
I feel like that's exactly the point, folks need to have the information presented to them before the next election, in order to make informed decisions about whom they vote for. Whether they choose to pay heed or dismiss the information, at least they can't claim that they didn't know about it. The prosecutors shouldn't have to convince the public of anything though: a crime is a crime, and as Garland has said, nobody is above the law. And yes, it's close to an election, but not the Presidential election, and one can make an argument that you'll always be close to some election.
As for the 70 million, SOME of them (a definite "some") have recognized their mistake since, but yes, it is human nature not to want to own up to one's errors or admit that they were taken. That is going to take a fair bit of time... it's worth remembering that this is nothing new:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/17/trump-watergate-and-how-conspiracy-theories-get-made-215274/
https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/educational-resources/a-rough-guide-to-richard-nixon-s-conspiracy-theories
Edit: and on the subject of the 70 million, time to take a little trip down memory lane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxHp8Hughd0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSGF71zONbY
Re: Answer me this - vision63 - 09-21-2022
PeterB wrote:
[quote=RgrF]
[quote=PeterB]
[quote=cbelt3]
Because the FBI and DOJ are being very very very careful. That's how they roll... they make their cases one piece of paper at a time. So there is no chance of any loophole.
This is the only answer that makes ANY sense to me. If this guy were anyone other than who he is (or more precisely, who he USED to be), he would have been long since prosecuted and locked up by now.
That and the fact he persuaded over 70 million people to vote for him, people wont want to think they were fooled and don't easily admit to that level of mistake.
As others have pointed out, they need an ironclad case, one that can be sold to the public before they indict. This close to election any move they make is fraught with danger.
I feel like that's exactly the point, folks need to have the information presented to them before the next election, in order to make informed decisions about whom they vote for. Whether they choose to pay heed or dismiss the information, at least they can't claim that they didn't know about it. The prosecutors shouldn't have to convince the public of anything though: a crime is a crime, and as Garland has said, nobody is above the law. And yes, it's close to an election, but not the Presidential election, and one can make an argument that you'll always be close to some election.
As for the 70 million, SOME of them (a definite "some") have recognized their mistake since, but yes, it is human nature not to want to own up to one's errors or admit that they were taken. That is going to take a fair bit of time... it's worth remembering that this is nothing new:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/17/trump-watergate-and-how-conspiracy-theories-get-made-215274/
https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/educational-resources/a-rough-guide-to-richard-nixon-s-conspiracy-theories
The Attorney General (theoretically) cannot make their moves political. They're also not going to leave potentially serious charges unaddressed while they rush their prosecution. That's just how it is. This guy isn't Bill Barr.
Re: Answer me this - RAMd®d - 09-21-2022
I won't get to see this "live" as I'll be en route to and getting my bivalent vaccination.
I'll try to check it out when getting my usual post-vax Double Double and Chonklet shake.
Re: Answer me this - vision63 - 09-21-2022
RAMd®d wrote:
I won't get to see this "live" as I'll be en route to and getting my bivalent vaccination.
I'll try to check it out when getting my usual post-vax Double Double and Chonklet shake.
Seen leaving Mar a Lago.
