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Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - Speedy - 05-08-2023
“But the issues of waste solar panels, wind farm blades, and lithium traction batteries have to be solved immediately.”
All have been solved and long ago at that.
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - mattkime - 05-08-2023
There's a pretty healthy dose of judgement involved in declaring someone else's beliefs hypocritical. None of us live logically consistent lives, at least not from the wide variety of measures that can be used. Which doesn't mean that these questions aren't worth pursuing, just that they should come from a place of attempting to understand another.
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - pdq - 05-08-2023
Smote wrote:
But there sure is a certain hypocrisy in those same people screaming about 20,000 killed by firearms seem to be silent about the 25-75 times more lives ended by abortions. :dunno: The mom is excersizing her choice sure, but what about the unborn kids who have no say?
…and what about the perhaps millions of babies who will not be allowed to live because their parents selfishly chose birth control (or worse, sterilization - they’re basically worse than mass murderers).
Every sperm (and “six-week fetus”) is sacred. It’s cruel that a third of the latter have genetic or other defects which also prevent them from life.
Who will speak for them?
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - sekker - 05-08-2023
mattkime wrote:
There's a pretty healthy dose of judgement involved in declaring someone else's beliefs hypocritical. None of us live logically consistent lives, at least not from the wide variety of measures that can be used. Which doesn't mean that these questions aren't worth pursuing, just that they should come from a place of attempting to understand another.
I'm not quite sure if this was directed at me as OP, but my intent was honest (or as best as I can be self-aware) and with a hope to better understand a side/context that does not make sense to me.
My wife is a religious ed teacher, in the Catholic tradition. She has a hard time understanding her fellow Christians on these issues.
The climate-deniers are those that personally make me mad. They are trading the quality of the lives of future generations for a few quick bux today.
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - Racer X - 05-08-2023
Speedy wrote:
“But the issues of waste solar panels, wind farm blades, and lithium traction batteries have to be solved immediately.”
All have been solved and long ago at that.
how are they recycling all the blades? I have seen some be repoursed, but they are still essentually a blade. How are the solar panels being recycled?
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - Racer X - 05-08-2023
sekker wrote:
[quote=mattkime]
There's a pretty healthy dose of judgement involved in declaring someone else's beliefs hypocritical. None of us live logically consistent lives, at least not from the wide variety of measures that can be used. Which doesn't mean that these questions aren't worth pursuing, just that they should come from a place of attempting to understand another.
I'm not quite sure if this was directed at me as OP, but my intent was honest (or as best as I can be self-aware) and with a hope to better understand a side/context that does not make sense to me.
My wife is a religious ed teacher, in the Catholic tradition. She has a hard time understanding her fellow Christians on these issues.
The climate-deniers are those that personally make me mad. They are trading the quality of the lives of future generations for a few quick bux today.
well, all the changes are good to do anyway, so why not? I know the ozone hole is healing. Is the plan to bust out the R-12 again, problem over?
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - Tiangou - 05-08-2023
pdq wrote:
Every sperm (and “six-week fetus”) is sacred...
Of course! God smites the vast majority of sperm by the trillions every day (some 300 million or so with every human ejaculation) because he loves them.
...You were trying to be ironic, right? (Just take an insensate and boldly unreasonable position to show how absurd it is.)
...And you deliberately called a non-sentient blob of barely differentiated cells a "fetus" to be provocative.
How clever!
(You gave yourself away, tho. "Every Sperm is Sacred" is not a tenet of any major religion. It's a Monty Python song created to ridicule religion.)
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - Dennis S - 05-08-2023
“ Also 'tied' to those things are things like eating kale, approving of wilderness protection and sympathy for trans people.” - Hal
Also killing of wolves.
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - davester - 05-08-2023
Smote wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
“But the issues of waste solar panels, wind farm blades, and lithium traction batteries have to be solved immediately.”
All have been solved and long ago at that.
how are they recycling all the blades? I have seen some be repoursed, but they are still essentually a blade. How are the solar panels being recycled?
Oh geez, here we are in troll city again...
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - mattkime - 05-08-2023
sekker wrote:
I'm not quite sure if this was directed at me as OP, but my intent was honest (or as best as I can be self-aware) and with a hope to better understand a side/context that does not make sense to me.
My wife is a religious ed teacher, in the Catholic tradition. She has a hard time understanding her fellow Christians on these issues.
The climate-deniers are those that personally make me mad. They are trading the quality of the lives of future generations for a few quick bux today.
Not necessarily.
I think its a more emotional way of making decisions. Its not following some formal logic. Formal logic is a lot of work, even if its easy for you.
I don't necessarily think its complicated. Its just hard to believe that something could be so different.