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Re: Bad weekend in Chicago, yup the kids gone crazy - Mr645 - 08-02-2023
pdq wrote:
[quote=Mr645]
[quote=Ca Bob]
As the above post mentions, guns are easily available in Indiana and easily driven home across the Illinois border. The right wing noise machine loves to obsess on Chicago, instead of obsessing on guns.
All you need to buy a handgun in Indiana is be 21, have state issued Indiana ID and pass a background check. Easy peasy
All you need to buy a handgun in Chicago is know one of the many straw buyers in Gary.
Why go so far, just buy one in the ally behind the building. We should make it illegal to buy a gun on behalf of a felon
Re: Bad weekend in Chicago, yup the kids gone crazy - Mr645 - 08-02-2023
Ca Bob wrote:
It is a strange idea that because there are a lot of guns out there and a lot of people get killed with those guns, therefore the remedy is to have more guns in the hands of more people. Not only does this argument provide the essence of the term "illogic," it also contradicts that dumb statement that "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
Taking guns away from law abiding people does not help anyone except criminals
Re: Bad weekend in Chicago, yup the kids gone crazy - Tiangou - 08-02-2023
Mr645 wrote:
[quote=Ca Bob]
It is a strange idea that because there are a lot of guns out there and a lot of people get killed with those guns, therefore the remedy is to have more guns in the hands of more people. Not only does this argument provide the essence of the term "illogic," it also contradicts that dumb statement that "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
Taking guns away from law abiding people does not help anyone except criminals
People are only law abiding until they're not.
WTF do you think a "crime of passion" is?
And having a gun around is the surest way to have an accidental firearm discharge.
So, yeah: Take away people's guns. Even "law abiding" people.
No guns without permits. No permits issued without a showing of a substantial public interest.
Re: Bad weekend in Chicago, yup the kids gone crazy - Mr645 - 08-03-2023
Tiangou wrote:
[quote=Mr645]
[quote=Ca Bob]
It is a strange idea that because there are a lot of guns out there and a lot of people get killed with those guns, therefore the remedy is to have more guns in the hands of more people. Not only does this argument provide the essence of the term "illogic," it also contradicts that dumb statement that "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
Taking guns away from law abiding people does not help anyone except criminals
People are only law abiding until they're not.
WTF do you think a "crime of passion" is?
And having a gun around is the surest way to have an accidental firearm discharge.
So, yeah: Take away people's guns. Even "law abiding" people.
No guns without permits. No permits issued without a showing of a substantial public interest.
So "guilty" before committing a crime? There was a movie about it. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181689/
People don't run over pedestrians, until they do. Driving a car is the surest way to kill an innocent person in a car accident.
Re: Bad weekend in Chicago, yup the kids gone crazy - Tiangou - 08-03-2023
Mr645 wrote:
[quote=Tiangou]
[quote=Mr645]
[quote=Ca Bob]
It is a strange idea that because there are a lot of guns out there and a lot of people get killed with those guns, therefore the remedy is to have more guns in the hands of more people. Not only does this argument provide the essence of the term "illogic," it also contradicts that dumb statement that "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
Taking guns away from law abiding people does not help anyone except criminals
People are only law abiding until they're not.
WTF do you think a "crime of passion" is?
And having a gun around is the surest way to have an accidental firearm discharge.
So, yeah: Take away people's guns. Even "law abiding" people.
No guns without permits. No permits issued without a showing of a substantial public interest.
So "guilty" before committing a crime? There was a movie about it. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181689/
People don't run over pedestrians, until they do. Driving a car is the surest way to kill an innocent person in a car accident.
Cars are highly regulated and inspected and tickets issued for civil and criminal violations all the time.
They even have automated systems to ticket because violations are so frequent. (6th Amendment be damned.)
And we strictly regulate the manufacture of automobiles with federal safety standards.
Shall we force gun manufacturers to test every firearm and report the results to the feds as public records, and enforce a quota system akin to the MPG quotas on auto-fleets? Only allowed the sale of 100 long-guns for every ten-thousand pistols?