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Re: Trump is going to win - pdq - 06-14-2024
I'm sure it's been posted before, but...
Re: Trump is going to win - RgrF - 06-14-2024
kj. You're a self-professed conservative and in any but Trump times you'd be voting straight Evangelical/GOP. Why would good honest hard working Democrats listen to anything you have to say about how they run their party or the positions they espouse?
Re: Trump is going to win - $tevie - 06-14-2024
I am seriously waiting until after the convention to have an opinion about this. To me, it appears that Trump is going to be so blatantly bizarre by election day that he will lose all but the most devoted followers. So the question is, do these non-Trump voters vote for Biden, or a third party candidate, or stay home? My hope is that fear of electing a mentally ill person will drive them to vote for Biden.
I have been wrong so many times. We'll see how it all goes down.
Re: Trump is going to win - mrbigstuff - 06-14-2024
The part of this is that th9se folks already know 45 is a disaster of a human, but they don't care; they hate you and all you represent more than they care who they vote for. Plus, it's sort of a game to them and they don't understand how their vote impacts their lives.
Re: Trump is going to win - vision63 - 06-15-2024
mrbigstuff wrote:
The part of this is that th9se folks already know 45 is a disaster of a human, but they don't care; they hate you and all you represent more than they care who they vote for. Plus, it's sort of a game to them and they don't understand how their vote impacts their lives.
They're would be the main one's complaining. They're already complaining because it won't be their fault.
Re: Trump is going to win - kj - 06-15-2024
RgrF wrote:
kj. You're a self-professed conservative and in any but Trump times you'd be voting straight Evangelical/GOP. Why would good honest hard working Democrats listen to anything you have to say about how they run their party or the positions they espouse?
No one has to, but there might be some truth in what I'm saying. Fwiw, I would vote for James Carter for King, so idk if I would consider myself a "straight Evangelical/GOP". Biden is actually pretty conservative, so I don't have a big problem with him.
Re: Trump is going to win - kj - 06-15-2024
"If I recall correctly, four years ago you said you hated Hillary Clinton and everything she stood for. Trump won and appointed three more young compliant conservative culture warriors to the SCOTUS that have since upended women’s lives, among other things. Don’t like Biden? Vote for whoever you want."
I'm not fond of Hillary, but I doubt I ever said I hated her. I've said a billion times she was a terrible candidate, and she was. After Trumps first term, I would still say Hillary could have done as much I wouldn't have liked as Trump did. I didn't prefer her.
Again, I don't like abortion, so it doesn't upset me like it does many. "Upended women's lives". Some women's lives. Many women are against abortion, and approximately half the "fetuses" would have been women. It's an attack on abortion, not on women. That said, I'm pretty sure the Scotus approach to the issue isn't the best.
edit: I will add that ignoring the problems we have right now don't help. Housing is an amazing mess. One cannot overstate the magnitude of the problem. Things cost a lot more than they did. Perhaps some peoples' income increased enough to offset that extra cost, but I am reasonably sure a large chunk of the US is not complaining about nothing. I know my income didn't come close to increasing proportionally, despite what numbers say (there are good reasons the numbers don't accurately describe what's happening).
Re: Trump is going to win - Ted King - 06-15-2024
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Re: Trump is going to win - Lemon Drop - 06-15-2024
2. The Democrats suck at messaging and counterattacking. They just let the Republicans spew lies and misleading statements without any effective response. They're bring logical knives (or even spoons) to an emotional gunfight.
Strongly disagree with this. If you only listen to right wing media, maybe this rings true.
Try following Pres. Biden, VP Harris, DNC Chair Jamie Harrison,
Hakeem Jeffries, Sen. Tammy Duckworth and others on social media.
Or the White House press sec.
They regularly, sometimes daily, issue fired up responses to the crazy things the GOP is saying and doing. And highlight the effective things Dems are doing.
They do it very well. Sometimes wuth humor, Dark Brandon style, sometimes with full fire, but always with facts.
I actually think the Dems who communicate more with emotion, like AOC, are less effective. But they're out there too.
Re: Trump is going to win - $tevie - 06-15-2024
mrbigstuff wrote:
The part of this is that th9se folks already know 45 is a disaster of a human, but they don't care; they hate you and all you represent more than they care who they vote for. Plus, it's sort of a game to them and they don't understand how their vote impacts their lives.
I'm not talking about people realizing he is a disaster. I'm talking about him becoming blatantly demented. As in, unable to perform at his rallies because he babbles incoherently the entire time as opposed to a lot of the time. Maybe talking about the Apprentice the entire time because he thinks it's still on the air and he's promoting. Stuff like that. Stuff that means he is not even useful as an idiot.