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Re: How will this end? - Janit - 02-11-2025 pdq wrote: I have no doubt that we are headed for a constitutional crisis. What I am wondering is how that will play out. What will it take to get Trump and his cronies out, what kind of economic devastation will it take to motivate people to do it, and what kind of country will we have when it's done? I have several relatives who are federal civil servants or who do research funded by grants from NIH, NSF, etc. They do good work. They feed people. They heal people. They do research designed to feed people better and to heal people better. They go to meetings to tell other people what they have learned so that others can feed people better and to heal people better. Others negotiate government contracts and fight with contractors who try to rip the government off. My relatives are being hit by a double whammy: the destruction of their life's work and the destruction of their physical lives. Several of them are going to lose their houses. Where are they going to go? And it won't stop with the intelligentsia. The government cuts are going to affect everyone. It is one case where "trickle-down" WILL work. I fear that there will be an epidemic of suicides, and that it will cut across the whole economy. The MAGATS may be intending to kill the intelligentsia, but I fear they will end up killing the entire country as well. Re: How will this end? - special - 02-11-2025 I am concerned about political violence. I am against guns, but I am concerned that some MAGA nut will come to my house since I had democratic signs in front of my house. Maybe I should get a gun? a LEGAL gun? I am scared to think about this, but it does cross my mind. Re: How will this end? - Lemon Drop - 02-11-2025 Janit wrote: I have no doubt that we are headed for a constitutional crisis. What I am wondering is how that will play out. What will it take to get Trump and his cronies out, what kind of economic devastation will it take to motivate people to do it, and what kind of country will we have when it's done? I have several relatives who are federal civil servants or who do research funded by grants from NIH, NSF, etc. They do good work. They feed people. They heal people. They do research designed to feed people better and to heal people better. They go to meetings to tell other people what they have learned so that others can feed people better and to heal people better. Others negotiate government contracts and fight with contractors who try to rip the government off. My relatives are being hit by a double whammy: the destruction of their life's work and the destruction of their physical lives. Several of them are going to lose their houses. Where are they going to go? And it won't stop with the intelligentsia. The government cuts are going to affect everyone. It is one case where "trickle-down" WILL work. I fear that there will be an epidemic of suicides, and that it will cut across the whole economy. The MAGATS may be intending to kill the intelligentsia, but I fear they will end up killing the entire country as well. I'm worried about these folks too, particularly in science or humanitarian fields. UNC Chapel Hill is suing over the reduction in federal grant funding to their science departments, cuts that could cost thousands of jobs around the state, and negatively impact ongoing research. Just one state, one university. Yet as a voting bloc probably not influential at all, many are likely already Dem voters or live in a red state. Scary depressing times. Re: How will this end? - Numo - 02-11-2025 Given how completely off the rails Trump is acting in global affairs, there is the possibility that foreign entanglements could ultimately result in some sort of military disaster. But he is basically a coward so I don’t think this will happen in the short term. I hope it will never happen, but maybe a close call like the threat of an impending nuclear war could finally force him from office. Sorry to be so depressing. Re: How will this end? - Acer - 02-11-2025 Numo wrote: We haven't heard him rattle his sabre at Iran lately. At least not directly, though certainly implied with his Gaza Final Solution. Iran, IIRC, was the main sovereign entity he threatened with military action. Re: How will this end? - sekker - 02-11-2025 'In fire.' Re: How will this end? - special - 02-11-2025 sekker wrote: Fire squad? Re: How will this end? - Michael - 02-11-2025 Midterms. Then we'll have a divided legislature and the complete idiots won't be in control. More middle'ish House members from both sides will drive House votes. Those bills won't be acceptable to the Senate and so little will get done legislatively. Re: How will this end? - $tevie - 02-11-2025 gabester wrote: I don't think their jobs are on the line. They can be coopted by the usurper king's imperial administration and given a cut of the royal treasury. They've already demonstrated they'll sell us out for a few tens of thousands in campaign donations; an offer of something like a quarter billion each would make most of the ~270 Reps and Senators "wealthy" beyond their wildest dreams to be governors of their newly assigned feudal serfs the rest of their lives. The idea that Trump and Musk will give them anything but a boot in the ass is amazing to me. Those guys in no way will pay Congress people to leave when they can just dissolve the entire legislature. Nobody seems to be willing to stop them. Re: How will this end? - mrbigstuff - 02-11-2025 It may end with me becoming an ex-pat. |