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Re: Boy, the Ukrainians seem to be kickin ass lately… - mrbigstuff - 09-13-2022

Remember, he wants to destroy the cities and infrastructure, he's not looking to dominate the people and occupy the country. Not yet, at any rate. But a decimated Ukraine would mean that he won't have to worry about that flank.


Re: Boy, the Ukrainians seem to be kickin ass lately… - pdq - 09-13-2022

mrbigstuff wrote:
Remember, he wants to destroy the cities and infrastructure, he's not looking to dominate the people and occupy the country. Not yet, at any rate. But a decimated Ukraine would mean that he won't have to worry about that flank.

:S

Are you saying Russia faces an attack from Ukraine?


Re: Boy, the Ukrainians seem to be kickin ass lately… - mrbigstuff - 09-13-2022

pdq wrote:
[quote=mrbigstuff]
Remember, he wants to destroy the cities and infrastructure, he's not looking to dominate the people and occupy the country. Not yet, at any rate. But a decimated Ukraine would mean that he won't have to worry about that flank.

:S

Are you saying Russia faces an attack from Ukraine?
No


Re: Boy, the Ukrainians seem to be kickin ass lately… - Filliam H. Muffman - 09-13-2022

It seems the new tactic for slowing down Ukraine advances is for Russia to flood them with prisoners. There more POWs than they can handle.


Re: Boy, the Ukrainians seem to be kickin ass lately… - Ted King - 09-13-2022

mrbigstuff wrote:
[quote=pdq]
[quote=mrbigstuff]
Remember, he wants to destroy the cities and infrastructure, he's not looking to dominate the people and occupy the country. Not yet, at any rate. But a decimated Ukraine would mean that he won't have to worry about that flank.

:S

Are you saying Russia faces an attack from Ukraine?
No
I took it that you were referring to Putin's view that Western Europe is trying to colonize Eastern Europe and especially the Soviet Union Russia and thus that decimating Eastern Ukraine would become a bulwark against Nazis Nato in Russia's southern flank. Was that in the ballpark?


Re: Boy, the Ukrainians seem to be kickin ass lately… - mrbigstuff - 09-13-2022

Ted King wrote:
[quote=mrbigstuff]
[quote=pdq]
[quote=mrbigstuff]
Remember, he wants to destroy the cities and infrastructure, he's not looking to dominate the people and occupy the country. Not yet, at any rate. But a decimated Ukraine would mean that he won't have to worry about that flank.

:S

Are you saying Russia faces an attack from Ukraine?
No
I took it that you were referring to Putin's view that Western Europe is trying to colonize Eastern Europe and especially the Soviet Union Russia and thus that decimating Eastern Ukraine would become a bulwark against Nazis Nato in Russia's southern flank. Was that in the ballpark?
Yes. But more to the point, he wants to destroy the systems that would make Ukraine a power in the future, one that could challenge Russia. Hey, let's face it, Putin could have really bombed the hell out of that country (and may still!), with no fear that any of that would occur in reverse. He's smart enough to know that occupation is a dead end.

Then again, it's been a long while since I've studied with poli-sci geopolitical experts at university!


Re: Boy, the Ukrainians seem to be kickin ass lately… - btfc - 09-13-2022

Putin coveted eastern Ukraine’s resources and infrastructure; doubtful that trashing it was his first inclination, but he certainly might do so out of spite:


Re: Boy, the Ukrainians seem to be kickin ass lately… - mrbigstuff - 09-13-2022

Putin covets many things, and certainly Odessa. but what will that look like if he must establish an island in the middle of an enemy country? Better to destroy what he cannot possess.


Re: Boy, the Ukrainians seem to be kickin ass lately… - kj - 09-14-2022

Maybe now, but I fully think Putin intended to install Russian governance and presence in Ukraine and make it part of Russia. No need for ground troops at all if he just wants to destroy things.