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Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - Racer X - 05-08-2023
davester wrote:
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“But the issues of waste solar panels, wind farm blades, and lithium traction batteries have to be solved immediately.”
All have been solved and long ago at that.
how are they recycling all the blades? I have seen some be repoursed, but they are still essentually a blade. How are the solar panels being recycled?
Oh geez, here we are in troll city again...
so I ask a sincere question, and I get crapped on. No wonder there is seldom new blood here.
It is such a diverse community that I was hoping that maybe someone from the power generation industry might have some real-life insight. I guess the only expertise here is being jerks.
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - Tiangou - 05-08-2023
Smote wrote:
FTFY.
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - gabester - 05-08-2023
How come the "pro-life" anti-abortion people never talk about artificial wombs?
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - Lux Interior - 05-08-2023
DeusxMac wrote:
#1 “Change is bad!”
If things change, I won’t know how to act or make decisions, and I will be at a disadvantage.
Conservatives want to conserve the status quo. That's why they tend to be the people who have the most resources & the least problems in society.
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - sekker - 05-08-2023
gabester wrote:
How come the "pro-life" anti-abortion people never talk about artificial wombs?
That's a great point, and it is a functional test.
The 'anti-abortion' view is a mix, including those that are legitimately 'pro-life' and those that use this argument conveniently to maintain power (i.e. to hold back women's rights).
My wife and I have had this argument for years. She is the former and thought the latter was a minority. I told her that she will see the latter once RvW is revoked - 'watch, out they will go after contraception next.'
The day SCOTUS Justice Thomas made this statement, my wife realized she had been aiding and abetting an entire segment of our leadership who do NOT want women to be equals.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/thomas-constitutional-rights-00042256#:~:text=Justice%20Clarence%20Thomas%20argued%20in,relationships%20and%20same%2Dsex%20marriage.
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - Ted King - 05-08-2023
Lux Interior wrote:
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#1 “Change is bad!”
If things change, I won’t know how to act or make decisions, and I will be at a disadvantage.
Conservatives want to conserve the status quo. That's why they tend to be the people who have the most resources & the least problems in society.
Kinda fits with my observation that all of those groups are disproportionately represented by white males.
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - kj - 05-08-2023
AllGold wrote:
Those are simply Republican political strategies. Nothing more. Each has been calculated to draw support to Republicans, whom as we know, are much better at staying on message than Democrats.
This and a little Hal, for sure. I know a lot of people who don't have "consistent" positions on all three. It's important for stereotypers to believe if you know the positions of people on one issue, that you know their position on every issue, but it never works that way.
The gun thing is simplistic to the point of ridiculousness. Pro-life doesn't mean you are pro all life. Do you have to abstain from anti-fungal cream because you are pro-life?
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - kj - 05-08-2023
davester wrote:
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“But the issues of waste solar panels, wind farm blades, and lithium traction batteries have to be solved immediately.”
All have been solved and long ago at that.
how are they recycling all the blades? I have seen some be repoursed, but they are still essentually a blade. How are the solar panels being recycled?
Oh geez, here we are in troll city again...
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NO! That has not all been solved long ago. Come on! Just because you are on the "right side" doesn't mean you can spout bull shite. You should check out what is being done to Indonesia for battery materials. You can argue there are fewer problems with green power, but there's definitely some stuff that needs to be figured out (and probably won't be).
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - kj - 05-09-2023
Ted King wrote:
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I am very much in the pro-choice camp. Personal choice and personal freedoms. pro abortion does not have to mean anti gun.
But there sure is a certain hypocrisy in those same people screaming about 20,000 killed by firearms seem to be silent about the 25-75 times more lives ended by abortions. :dunno: The mom is excersizing her choice sure, but what about the unborn kids who have no say?
25-75 times more depends on which recent year you look at. But the enormous difference in either ratio illustrates the point.
I've had a family member who was raped. I understand the issues from a pretty close perspective. In the past I drove a few friends to abortion clinics because they had no one else to turn to for help who wouldn't judge them.
An implicit assumption you are making is that a fetus is a person as much as a post-birth person that is killed by a firearm. I don't accept that assumption.
I used to think this was the crux of the biscuit, but lately I've talked to quite a few who agree the fetus is a human life, and even a person, but they don't care. Still fine.
There's also an assumption that the life of the person already alive is more valuable than the one that will be a person. There are some people who have large negative value. I think you have to be religious to think they should be alive.
Re: Why are these topics aligned: anti-abortion, pro-guns, climate change denials - Ted King - 05-09-2023
kj wrote:
[quote=davester]
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“But the issues of waste solar panels, wind farm blades, and lithium traction batteries have to be solved immediately.”
All have been solved and long ago at that.
how are they recycling all the blades? I have seen some be repoursed, but they are still essentually a blade. How are the solar panels being recycled?
Oh geez, here we are in troll city again...
auto=webp&s=20b3562cfebdf339110d1f4a6e6a85bb3e658c25">
NO! That has not all been solved long ago. Come on! Just because you are on the "right side" doesn't mean you can spout bull shite. You should check out what is being done to Indonesia for battery materials. You can argue there are fewer problems with green power, but there's definitely some stuff that needs to be figured out (and probably won't be).
I don't know about the "probably won't be" but I agree that there is a lot more that needs to be figured out about recycling of "green" technology. Here's some work being done about windmill blades:
https://cen.acs.org/environment/recycling/companies-recycle-wind-turbine-blades/100/i27