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Re: Trump indicted again. - SteveG - 08-01-2023
based on quotes in the indictment and other context, CNN can identify five of the six co-conspirators.
Co-Conspirator 1 is former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani. Among other things, the indictment quotes from a voicemail that Co-Conspirator 1 left “for a United States Senator” on January 6, 2021. The quotes in the indictment match quotes from Giuliani’s call intended for GOP Sen. Tommy Tuberville, as reported by CNN and other outlets.
Co-Conspirator 2 is former Trump lawyer John Eastman. Among other things, the indictment says Co-Conspirator 2 “circulated a two-page memorandum” with a plan for Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the 2020 election while presiding over the Electoral College certification on January 6, 2021. The indictment quotes from the memo, and those quotes match a two-page memo that Eastman wrote, as reported and published by CNN.
Co-Conspirator 3 is former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell. Among other things, the indictment says Co-Conspirator 3 “filed a lawsuit against the Governor of Georgia” on November 25, 2020, alleging “massive election fraud” and that the lawsuit was “dismissed” on December 7, 2020. These dates and quotations match the federal lawsuit that Powell filed against Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp.
Co-Conspirator 4 is former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark. The indictment identifies Co-Conspirator 4 as “a Justice Department official.” The indictment also quotes an email that a top Justice Department sent to Clark, rebutting Clark’s attempts to use the department to overturn the election. The quotes in that email directly match quotes in an email sent to Clark, according to a Senate report about how Trump tried to weaponize the Justice Department in 2020.
Co-Conspirator 5 is pro-Trump lawyer Kenneth Chesebro. Among other things, the indictment references an “email memorandum” that Co-Conspirator 5 “sent” to Giuliani on December 13, 2020, about the fake electors plot. The email sender, recipient, date, and content are a direct match for an email that Chesebro sent to Giuliani, according to a copy of the email made public by the House select committee that investigated January 6.
The identity of Co-Conspirator 6 is unclear. The indictment says they are “a political consultant who helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential electors to obstruct the certification proceeding.” The indictment also further ties this person to the fake elector slate in Pennsylvania.
Re: Trump indicted again. - Lemon Drop - 08-01-2023
Ombligo wrote:
As exciting as this is, the Georgia charges are more important as they can not receive a presidential pardon.
But the Governor can pardon.
And the Georgia case evidence is completely rolled into the federal charges. It is mentioned dozens of times in the indictment released today.
I had been worried that the Fulton County case, which is really too big for a county level prosecution, would not be backed up by the feds.
His offenses are sgainst all Americans. Not just Georgians. This needed to be a federal case.
And now it is.
Those state charges are coming and they are very important.
But 50 years from now when students learn about this, it will be today's charges that are at the center.
It is one of the most important cases in US history.
Re: Trump indicted again. - Black - 08-01-2023
Whatever Trump gets is never going to be enough, but I hope co-conspirator 4 goes down hard.
hal wrote:
You watch - he's gonna try to serve up Eastman as his fall guy
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the co-conspirators:
Re: Trump indicted again. - AllGold - 08-01-2023
hal wrote:
and THIS time he gets an Obama judge
[edit]: stolen from twitter: Chutkan, an Obama appointee, is the only federal judge in Washington, D.C. who has sentenced Jan. 6 defendants to sentences longer than the government had requested.
Re: Trump indicted again. - Speedy - 08-01-2023
Nice to see Clark indicted. The rest are just sorry sacks of @#$%&.
Re: Trump indicted again. - hal - 08-01-2023
CNN is saying that #6 is Jason Miller - nice!
Re: Trump indicted again. - AllGold - 08-01-2023
I think all of the co-conspirators are so far unindicted.
One theory I heard floated about that is by indicting them separately/later and focusing on Trump alone allows Smith to bring him to trial much sooner.
Re: Trump indicted again. - $tevie - 08-01-2023
Re: Trump indicted again. - AllGold - 08-01-2023
hal wrote:
CNN is saying that #6 is Jason Miller - nice!
I desperately want a different Miller, Stephen Miller, to serve prison time, but I don't know how involved he was in the scheme.
Re: Trump indicted again. - hal - 08-01-2023
from twitter:
Mike Pence statement: “Today's indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States...Our country is more important than one man. Our Constitution is more important than any one man’s career."