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Re: Elmo hits rock bottom for me - Bernie - 12-12-2024

sekker wrote:
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=sekker]
But I can count positive things from each as well.

From trump?!?

Please elucidate!
Raising the strategic danger of China, the Abraham Accords, and Project Warp Speed come to mind.

Were they 'his' ideas? No clue. But they came out of his administration.

I try to call balls and strikes as accurately as I can.
No new wars under Trump.
C19 came from China and Trump was called a racist for shutting down flights from China.
They were not experiencing Genocide because of or due to the Abraham Accords.
Project Warp Speed was an OPTION and the States and industry and the fake news made it Morally Mandatory. Trump is going to rehire the military that was forced out with back pay.

I will stop there as it is so true that you can lead a horse to


Re: Elmo hits rock bottom for me - Spock - 12-12-2024

DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=sekker]
But I can count positive things from each as well.

From trump?!?

Please elucidate!
Trump made Nixon look honest.

Trump made GWB look smart.

Trump made Reagan look sentient.

Is three enough.


Re: Elmo hits rock bottom for me - vision63 - 12-13-2024

Bernie wrote:
[quote=sekker]
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=sekker]
But I can count positive things from each as well.

From trump?!?

Please elucidate!
Raising the strategic danger of China, the Abraham Accords, and Project Warp Speed come to mind.

Were they 'his' ideas? No clue. But they came out of his administration.

I try to call balls and strikes as accurately as I can.
No new wars under Trump.
C19 came from China and Trump was called a racist for shutting down flights from China.
They were not experiencing Genocide because of or due to the Abraham Accords.
Project Warp Speed was an OPTION and the States and industry and the fake news made it Morally Mandatory. Trump is going to rehire the military that was forced out with back pay.

I will stop there as it is so true that you can lead a horse to
Of course, you're entitled to feel that way and believe what you choose to believe. But I disagree with you.


Re: Elmo hits rock bottom for me - kj - 12-13-2024

Lemon Drop wrote:
"Years ago there might have been some truth to what he's saying, "



What year was that, exactly?

Around 2009 or so. I had probably 20 clients who had been homeless. They were a hopeless mess. My work instructions were if they physically touched me (they always did) to kick them out of my car immediately. Horrible people. If you were in the same room with one, you wouldn't last 5 minutes before you called the cops.

Were all of them this way? Absolutely not! But many, many of them were, hence the "there is some truth to what he's saying".

Now? Most of the homeless were not homeless most of their lives, and have only recently become so. Not the same situation at all.

Even now, I live close to some of the parks where homeless people tend to live. They are not super dangerous, _mostly_ (women have been raped, killed) but there are needles etc. everywhere. If they could just be bothered to walk a few feet to the trash cans that are everywhere...


Re: Elmo hits rock bottom for me - kj - 12-13-2024

wave rider wrote:
[quote=kj]
Years ago there might have been some truth to what he's saying, although it wouldn't have been a kind way to look at things. But now most of the homeless are very hard-working people who just can't afford housing in this insane country. Yeah, he's being a real dick, but I would hope he has a change of heart rather than death.

One needs a heart to have a change of heart…
Progressives are so insistent that everyone is essentially good, except sometimes.


Re: Elmo hits rock bottom for me - kj - 12-13-2024

Bernie wrote:
[quote=sekker]
[quote=DeusxMac]
[quote=sekker]
But I can count positive things from each as well.

From trump?!?

Please elucidate!
Raising the strategic danger of China, the Abraham Accords, and Project Warp Speed come to mind.

Were they 'his' ideas? No clue. But they came out of his administration.

I try to call balls and strikes as accurately as I can.
No new wars under Trump.
C19 came from China and Trump was called a racist for shutting down flights from China.
They were not experiencing Genocide because of or due to the Abraham Accords.
Project Warp Speed was an OPTION and the States and industry and the fake news made it Morally Mandatory. Trump is going to rehire the military that was forced out with back pay.

I will stop there as it is so true that you can lead a horse to
"Mr Obama's Republican rivals have already singled out China and its trade practices for criticism, now he too is picking up this theme.
Perhaps to show he means action the president said he is creating a new body tasked with looking into unfair competition."

Lip service. I think "looking into it" was as far as it went. Plus, he just watched N Korea develop ways to threaten other countries. I think Obama really avoided anything too substantial due to the risk.


Re: Elmo hits rock bottom for me - AllGold - 12-13-2024

Bernie wrote:
No new wars under Trump.

That was a favorite refrain of our--former, apparently--forum Trump cheerleader.

Here's reality: unlike Trump, the U.S. has zero troops involved in a war currently under the Biden administration. The other reality is POTUS does not determine what wars start or do not start between other foreign countries no matter how you try to spin it.


Re: Elmo hits rock bottom for me - vision63 - 12-13-2024

AllGold wrote:
[quote=Bernie]
No new wars under Trump.

That was a favorite refrain of our--former, apparently--forum Trump cheerleader.

Here's reality: unlike Trump, the U.S. has zero troops involved in a war currently under the Biden administration. The other reality is POTUS does not determine what wars start or do not start between other foreign countries no matter how you try to spin it.
It's not like Trump tried to not have war other than follow Putin's instructions in Syria. FACT.


Re: Elmo hits rock bottom for me - Carnos Jax - 12-13-2024

Bernie wrote:
This is an echo chamber for the Elon/Trump Derangement Syndrome.

No, it possibly couldn’t have anything to do with them at interjecting themselves into the news cycle 24/7. The only people who would think otherwise are supporters of racists, rapists & felons.


Re: Elmo hits rock bottom for me - Carnos Jax - 12-13-2024

PeterB wrote:
[quote=Bernie]
This is an echo chamber for the Elon/Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Indeed, since they're both deranged.
:ftw: