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Re: EV charging at the Mall - vision63 - 05-04-2025
I think people change their whole ideas and concepts about driving when they have EV's. They match/jibe their lifestyles based on the limitations of their vehicles. Unconsciously.
People in prisons get used to it. People who are free, take for granted that they can walk out of their front door and walk around the block any time they feel like it with no limitations whatsoever (if they "can" walk).
The only way there'll be the proper adoption of EV's is if people more or less have no choice but to buy EV's. That's political policy.
Re: EV charging at the Mall - Speedy - 05-04-2025
wurm wrote:
Another quick question for those doing almost all of your charging at home. I know it's all dependent on the area of the country in which you live, but on average how much have you seen your monthly electric bill increase?
And those of you fortunate enough to already be totally off-the-grid, no need to rub it in.
We pay around 13.375ยข/kWh. But our fixed charge remains the same no matter how much we use so using more means less total average charges per kWh. Taxes, etc. are based on use so there is no overall average kWh savings attached to those. We noticed no noticeable change in our electric bill for our two PHEVs (Volt, ELR) that go 42 and 34 miles respectively before the gasoline generator kicks in.
The Volt is driven about five days a week for six months, then zero for six months, and uses less than a tankful of gas (9 gals.) a year. The ELR is driven the same and uses about the same amount of gas over the same six months but it is also our travel car (we put 10k miles on it in the last six months) so it uses plenty of gas getting to each destination where we again charge using the grid for all our stays. We live centrally in a fairly compact metro area of 200k population.
Re: EV charging at the Mall - wurm - 05-04-2025
But our fixed charge remains the same no matter how much we use so using more means less total average charges per kWh.
That's intriguing. That sounds different than some sort of 'budget plan' some utilities offer to avoid higher bills in peak seasons. Does this get adjusted every year or is it a forever rate?
Re: EV charging at the Mall - GGD - 05-04-2025
wurm wrote:
But our fixed charge remains the same no matter how much we use so using more means less total average charges per kWh.
That's intriguing. That sounds different than some sort of 'budget plan' some utilities offer to avoid higher bills in peak seasons. Does this get adjusted every year or is it a forever rate?
Sounds more like how my water bill works, there's a fixed monthly cost just to provide service to the property and then actual usage is charged on top of that.
Re: EV charging at the Mall - Speedy - 05-04-2025
GGD wrote:
[quote=wurm]
But our fixed charge remains the same no matter how much we use so using more means less total average charges per kWh.
That's intriguing. That sounds different than some sort of 'budget plan' some utilities offer to avoid higher bills in peak seasons. Does this get adjusted every year or is it a forever rate?
Sounds more like how my water bill works, there's a fixed monthly cost just to provide service to the property and then actual usage is charged on top of that.
This ^ My post is not well stated.