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Re: Trump indicted again. - N-OS X-tasy! - 08-02-2023
Steve G. wrote:
Forty-eight stars?
Re: Trump indicted again. - Acer - 08-02-2023
N-OS X-tasy! wrote:
[quote=Steve G.]
Forty-eight stars?
Back when America was great!
Re: Trump indicted again. - N-OS X-tasy! - 08-02-2023
PeterB wrote:
[quote=hal]
from twitter:
Mike Pence statement: “Today's indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States...Our country is more important than one man. Our Constitution is more important than any one man’s career."
I'm really struck by this statement. Again, it's saying something that your own former VP is saying that you should never again be President.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: This nation was DAMNED LUCKY Pence said the things he said and did the things he did that day. I detest the guy and what he stands for, but goddamn if he isn’t an American patriot and a hero.
Re: Trump indicted again. - Speedy - 08-02-2023
N-OS X-tasy! wrote:
[quote=PeterB]
[quote=hal]
from twitter:
Mike Pence statement: “Today's indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States...Our country is more important than one man. Our Constitution is more important than any one man’s career."
I'm really struck by this statement. Again, it's saying something that your own former VP is saying that you should never again be President.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: This nation was DAMNED LUCKY Pence said the things he said and did the things he did that day. I detest the guy and what he stands for, but goddamn if he isn’t an American patriot and a hero.
Pence just did his job. He gets no thanks from me for that. My employer never thanked me for just doing my job.
Re: Trump indicted again. - mattkime - 08-02-2023
Pence declined joining a criminal conspiracy. I think there are higher standards for hero-dom.
Re: Trump indicted again. - rgG - 08-02-2023
mattkime wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
[quote=Ombligo]
As exciting as this is, the Georgia charges are more important as they can not receive a presidential pardon.
But the Governor can pardon.
Initially I thought "Well, I'm sure the governor be tripping over himself to make it happen" ....but a quick google search reveals that Trump was mad that the Georgia governor for not assisting his efforts and funded a challenger who failed.
What kind of lock does the current governor have on his seat?
Kemp can’t run again, as this is his second and final term, so no reason at all for him to pardon
The Orange Menace, especially since OM bad mouthed Kemp and worked against him, since Kemp wouldn’t help OM out with his plans to steal GA.
Re: Trump indicted again. - $tevie - 08-02-2023
Lemon Drop wrote:
I hope #6 is Ginni Thomas
That seems to be the most popular choice on Twitter…er, X.
It would be like a beautiful frosting on our yummy indictment treat.
Re: Trump indicted again. - mattkime - 08-02-2023
rgG wrote: Kemp can’t run again, as this is his second and final term, so no reason at all for him to pardon
The Orange Menace, especially since OM bad mouthed Kemp and worked against him, since Kemp wouldn’t help OM out with his plans to steal GA.
Hm, about 3 years left.
Re: Trump indicted again. - PeterB - 08-02-2023
Speedy wrote:
[quote=N-OS X-tasy!]
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: This nation was DAMNED LUCKY Pence said the things he said and did the things he did that day. I detest the guy and what he stands for, but goddamn if he isn’t an American patriot and a hero.
Pence just did his job. He gets no thanks from me for that. My employer never thanked me for just doing my job.
mattkime wrote:
Pence declined joining a criminal conspiracy. I think there are higher standards for hero-dom.
I see both sides of this. While it's true he was "just doing his job" and "declined joining a criminal conspiracy", you also have to realize that he was probably under tremendous pressure at the time to go along with Dump's directives. No, for sure the guy isn't a saint, but ... had he caved into the pressure from his then-boss and associated cronies, aka the co-co's, we might be in a very different place right now.
Also, one can imagine that this is a big part of why his standing is around 1% of the current GOP candidates. So he's definitely paid a price for going against "the boss"... he'd been trying to toe the line, but with Dump (as for most extreme narcissists), you're either with him or against him; there's no in-between.
Re: Trump indicted again. - mattkime - 08-02-2023
PeterB wrote:
Also, one can imagine that this is a big part of why his standing is around 1% of the current GOP candidates.
One can also imagine that he's pushed the lower boundary of Vice Presidential charisma, which is not an easy thing to do.