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does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence? - mattkime - 01-10-2011
does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence?
Re: does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence? - OWC Jamie - 01-10-2011
just Arizona.
are they having problems with guns committing random acts of violence ?
How about just plain not making handguns any more.
Re: does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence? - Uncle Wig - 01-10-2011
mattkime wrote:
does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence?
Arizona's gun laws are about as NON-restrictive as you can get, Matt.
Loughner is quite obviously mentally ill; he should not have been sold a gun. But there are already laws on the books for that. His actions were not made possible by the recent changes to our gun laws. But look for a major shooting inside a bar soon, now that it's legal to bring loaded guns in.
Re: does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence? - Grace62 - 01-10-2011
What I don't get is how he passed the background check (there was one done by the FBI) with a criminal record and after having been expelled from a public community college as an adult for aggressive, threatening behavior. He was told he had to have a mental health clearance to return, so there was little doubt as to what was going on there. He was considered dangerous.
That should create a flag of some sort to prevent him from buying a weapon, I would think.
"Loughner, accused of killing six people, shooting Arizona Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and wounding 13 others, did not present a concealed weapons permit so he was required to pass an FBI background check. He did so"immediately and without incident," said Matt French, speaking from the Sportsman's Warehouse's Utah headquarters.
"To my knowledge, the firearm purchase was without incident," French said."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/09/arizona-suspected-gunman-no-stranger-to-trouble/#ixzz1Aflfb03x
Re: does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence? - Uncle Wig - 01-10-2011
Not sure, Grace. I don't think he was ever convicted of anything that would make him fail a background check. As for getting kicked out of Pima, I don't think he ever tried to get back in, hence no mental health evaluation, so that wouldn't show up either. He tried getting into the Army and was turned down; I don't know why that didn't show up.
Re: does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence? - Mac1337 - 01-10-2011
Of course everyone with an agenda is running away from the fact that the guy sitting ON the guy had a legal gun in his pocket with safety off. Would Grace be running toward the perp with her purse swinging?
Re: does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence? - (vikm) - 01-10-2011
Yep, 'coz two wrongs make a right. Remove guns from both and we wouldn't be discussing this at this length.
Re: does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence? - Grace62 - 01-10-2011
Dakota wrote:
Of course everyone with an agenda is running away from the fact that the guy sitting ON the guy had a legal gun in his pocket with safety off. Would Grace be running toward the perp with her purse swinging?
The guy with the gun had a purse swinging too? Anybody got that on video?
Re: does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence? - mattkime - 01-10-2011
Dakota wrote:
Of course everyone with an agenda is running away from the fact that the guy sitting ON the guy had a legal gun in his pocket with safety off.
He was too slow.
Re: does arizona need less restrictive gun laws to prevent gun violence? - Mac1337 - 01-11-2011
Ask those who are still alive if he was too slow. You'll sell your mother for a 38 if you were there.