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"Qaddafi's death proves that Obama was right:" - cbelt3 - 10-21-2011
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2011/1021/Qaddafi-s-death-proves-that-Obama-was-right
"The death of Qaddafi isn't just a victory for Libya. It validates Obama's and NATO's intervention – as opposed to the bitter ventures in Iraq and Afghanistan. "
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CSM editorial. I find myself in gentle agreement with it. I think the Iraq and Afghanistan 'bitter ventures' are a wildly different class of conflicts, but the international cooperative approach is a hallmark reminiscent of George H. Bush. Iraq would have ended up much different if the international community had supported the nascent Iraqi revolution after Gulf War I, rather than merely establishing a 'no fly zone' which had no positive results.
Then again, the NATO strategy (establish a no fly and no convoy zone) was helpful, but also had to be modified to be the defacto air force for the rebellion. So we were the rebellion's direct ally.
Re: "Qaddafi's death proves that Obama was right:" - $tevie - 10-21-2011
I'm still uncomfortable with going into foreign countries and influencing their fates, regardless of how it's handled. I can't decide how I feel about this.
Re: "Qaddafi's death proves that Obama was right:" - cbelt3 - 10-21-2011
$tevie-
It's a global world. Unrest spreads. Moamar had no problems bringing his brand of terror into the US and Europe in the past. Think of it as 'the broken window effect' on a global scale.
Re: "Qaddafi's death proves that Obama was right:" - $tevie - 10-21-2011
Part of me agrees 100%. And part of me does not.
Re: "Qaddafi's death proves that Obama was right:" - Filliam H. Muffman - 10-21-2011
cbelt3 wrote:Going to tie OWS with Lybia? :devil:
It's a global world. Unrest spreads.
Re: "Qaddafi's death proves that Obama was right:" - cbelt3 - 10-21-2011
nah, I'm thinking "World Police". Of course that was puppets..
Re: "Qaddafi's death proves that Obama was right:" - bazookaman - 10-21-2011
$tevie wrote:
I'm still uncomfortable with going into foreign countries and influencing their fates, regardless of how it's handled. I can't decide how I feel about this.
We broke the Prime Directive!
Re: "Qaddafi's death proves that Obama was right:" - mattkime - 10-21-2011
we influence whether we choose to or not.
Re: "Qaddafi's death proves that Obama was right:" - Black - 10-21-2011
I like to think the impetus to get involved in Libya was not so much about the chance to get rid of Ghaddafi, but that it seemed clear at that time that there would be be large scale execution of anyone involved in the resistance.
Re: "Qaddafi's death proves that Obama was right:" - Carnos Jax - 10-21-2011
Perhaps a lot of what's going on is a charade (in the sense I know things r not always what they appear)...
...but, as I understand it, the reason we intervened to the extent we did in Libya was once Qaddafi started using his military on a large scale against the civilian population.
It was along those lines we (in my impression) legitimized the Bosnia-Kosovo intervention.
If this is purely the case, I can 'buy' it.