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Santorum: Protestantism "is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it." - Ted King - 02-17-2012 http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/santorum-satan-systematically-destroying-america From a 2008 address to students at a Catholic university: This is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war. This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country - the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age? There is no one else to go after other than the United States and that has been the case now for almost two hundred years, once America's preeminence was sown by our great Founding Fathers. I hope he is asked to explain these comments - I'm expecting another "bleh" or "man on dog" unintentional comedic moment. Re: Santorum: Protestantism "is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it." - Grace62 - 02-17-2012 It's the "Satan hates America" theme of that speech that will give him heartburn. That speech is more inflammatory than anything Jeremiah Wright ever said, and these are the candidate's own words. But Romney can't attack on that, he'll risk offending the base. Democrats sure can, and if Santorum becomes the nominee they will, no doubt. As for the comment about "mainline Protestantism," yes it's in decline, I don't think anyone could argue otherwise. 7th day Adventists, Mormons, non-denominational Christians and Catholics are growing, last I heard. Re: Santorum: Protestantism "is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it." - Ted King - 02-17-2012 Grace62 wrote: Yeah, I don't think the Satan is taking over America stuff would go over well with a lot of Americans. It sure seems to me, though, that Santorum is saying more than that mainline Protestantism is in decline. He said, "...it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it." It's hard not to see that as saying that mainline Protestantism isn't really Christianity any more; in the context of his speech - that it lost the spiritual war with Satan and so is gone from Christianity. Re: Santorum: Protestantism "is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it." - Grace62 - 02-17-2012 He's referring to the split in American Christianity between liberal and conservative thinking. He wants to say that the liberal view is no longer relevant, as membership in those churches is declining, and he's right about the membership part. There is a clear divide on social issues between liberal Christians (typically mainline Protestants but not exclusively) and evangelicals and conservative Catholics. Issues like gay civil rights, social justice, and war have made the divide much bigger in recent years. He is saying it very awkwardly, but his intended audience will hear that dog whistle: "our brand of Christianity is superior, theirs has caused the problems and is no longer relevant." Re: Santorum: Protestantism "is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it." - Ted King - 02-17-2012 Grace62 wrote: I wouldn't say that that isn't an interpretation that could be made, but I don't see it in the context of the whole speech. Never-the-less, even if your interpretation is correct, I don't think it will go over well with a lot of Protestants. Re: Santorum: Protestantism "is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it." - Grace62 - 02-17-2012 I see what you mean, but the people he is speaking negatively of, if you want to view it that way, are already people who would not vote for him. It's not unusual for religious conservatives to come right out and say that they think "mainline Protestants" who for example allow pastors to be openly gay and who work for social justice are not really Christian. I hear that a lot, so the shock value just isn't there. Re: Santorum: Protestantism "is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it." - Acer - 02-18-2012 Like the Republicans redefining themselves to exclude the moderates as "not really Republicans," he's trying to define socially liberal Christians as "not really Christians." Another angle I hear from fans of Santorum's politics of blending Christianity and Republicanism, is to define Christians who are not fiscally or politically conservative as "not really Christian." Re: Santorum: Protestantism "is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it." - decay - 02-18-2012 ![]() Rick would love a return to an intertwined Church and State, like the good old days of Catholicism in Europe. |