Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach


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Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - Speedy - 02-23-2016 http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/bill-gates-sides-fbi-iphone-hack-request-n524051 "Speaking to the Financial Times newspaper on Tuesday, the founder of Apple rival Microsoft denied that the Cupertino company assisting authorities would set a precedent. "This is a specific case where the government is asking for access to information. They are not asking for some general thing, they are asking for a particular case," Bill Gates told the Financial Times. "It is no different than	should anybody ever have been able to tell the phone company to get information, should anybody be able to get at bank records. Let's say the bank had tied a ribbon round the disk drive and said 'don't make me cut this ribbon because you'll make me cut it many times'." Gates' stance sets him apart from other Silicon Valley executives on the matter. Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, Twitter founder Jack Dorsey and the head of Google, Sundar Pichari, have all sided with Apple and Tim Cook." Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - bobinmurphy - 02-23-2016 People are so focused on this issue today but haven't given any thought to what happens tomorrow. Security on these devices is a big deal in most of the rest of the world so there's a big financial impact on Apple if they loose, but ignoring that for the moment. What happens if in the future Iran or North Korea develop a secure device that the sell or give to terrorists? What does the US Government do then? Make it illegal to use a secure device to plan and carry out a terrorist act? The US Government needs a much better plan than whining to Apple about this damn iPhone or we're all going to be in much worse shape in the future. Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - rz - 02-23-2016 To me, this tells me that Gates has probably capitulated to the Gov't in the past. Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - cbelt3 - 02-23-2016 rz wrote: To me, this tells me that Gates has probably capitulated to the Gov't in the past. meh, considering how insecure Microsoft stuff is, I don't think the gummint had to even ask. Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - Ombligo - 02-23-2016 Microsoft is the screen door of security. It benefits Gates to bring everyone else down to their level. Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - Fred_Also - 02-23-2016 Ombligo wrote: Microsoft is the screen door of security. It benefits Gates to bring everyone else down to their level. I think you hit the nail on the head! Fred Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - JoeH - 02-23-2016 Ombligo wrote: Microsoft is the screen door of security. It benefits Gates to bring everyone else down to their level. It has taken decades for MS to even get to the level of "screen door", they essentially started at the security level of o door at all. Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - Black - 02-23-2016 All up in Apple's butt just like the good old days. Gates is in a better position than most to know what Apple has already done for law enforcement. Although he loses points for not taking advantage of the opportunity to pretend to be all about privacy like the others. Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - Marc Anthony - 02-23-2016 Thank god the law is not based on Bill Gates' opinion. His ribbon-cutting metaphor is just awful and doesn't even begin to reflect the magnitude of the effort Apple is being told—not asked—to perform. His position that no precedent is being sought and/or that this is about one phone runs counter to the evidence of a recent campaign against Apple using writs of assistance. Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - GGD - 02-23-2016 He's now trying to clarify his position, and says that he's not siding with the FBI. In a later interview with Bloomberg (video below), Gates said he was "disappointed" that his comments had been characterized as backing the FBI "because that doesn't state my view on this," but he stopped short of saying Apple should not comply with the court's order. "The courts are going to decide this, and I think Apple said whatever the court decision is, they'll abide by [it]," Gates said when asked asked what Cupertino should do. "In the meantime, that gives us this opportunity to get the discussion" started. He urged both sides not to act rashly. "You want to strike that balance [and] set an example" for the rest of the world. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2499844,00.asp

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Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - Speedy - 02-23-2016

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/bill-gates-sides-fbi-iphone-hack-request-n524051

"Speaking to the Financial Times newspaper on Tuesday, the founder of Apple rival Microsoft denied that the Cupertino company assisting authorities would set a precedent.

"This is a specific case where the government is asking for access to information. They are not asking for some general thing, they are asking for a particular case," Bill Gates told the Financial Times. "It is no different than

should anybody ever have been able to tell the phone company to get information, should anybody be able to get at bank records. Let's say the bank had tied a ribbon round the disk drive and said 'don't make me cut this ribbon because you'll make me cut it many times'."
Gates' stance sets him apart from other Silicon Valley executives on the matter. Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, Twitter founder Jack Dorsey and the head of Google, Sundar Pichari, have all sided with Apple and Tim Cook."

Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - bobinmurphy - 02-23-2016

People are so focused on this issue today but haven't given any thought to what happens tomorrow. Security on these devices is a big deal in most of the rest of the world so there's a big financial impact on Apple if they loose, but ignoring that for the moment. What happens if in the future Iran or North Korea develop a secure device that the sell or give to terrorists? What does the US Government do then? Make it illegal to use a secure device to plan and carry out a terrorist act?

The US Government needs a much better plan than whining to Apple about this damn iPhone or we're all going to be in much worse shape in the future.

Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - rz - 02-23-2016

To me, this tells me that Gates has probably capitulated to the Gov't in the past.

Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - cbelt3 - 02-23-2016

rz wrote:
To me, this tells me that Gates has probably capitulated to the Gov't in the past.

meh, considering how insecure Microsoft stuff is, I don't think the gummint had to even ask.

Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - Ombligo - 02-23-2016

Microsoft is the screen door of security. It benefits Gates to bring everyone else down to their level.

Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - Fred_Also - 02-23-2016

Ombligo wrote:
Microsoft is the screen door of security. It benefits Gates to bring everyone else down to their level.

I think you hit the nail on the head!

Fred

Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - JoeH - 02-23-2016

Ombligo wrote:
Microsoft is the screen door of security. It benefits Gates to bring everyone else down to their level.

It has taken decades for MS to even get to the level of "screen door", they essentially started at the security level of o door at all.

Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - Black - 02-23-2016

All up in Apple's butt just like the good old days.
Gates is in a better position than most to know what Apple has already done for law enforcement. Although he loses points for not taking advantage of the opportunity to pretend to be all about privacy like the others.

Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - Marc Anthony - 02-23-2016

Thank god the law is not based on Bill Gates' opinion. His ribbon-cutting metaphor is just awful and doesn't even begin to reflect the magnitude of the effort Apple is being told—not asked—to perform. His position that no precedent is being sought and/or that this is about one phone runs counter to the evidence of a recent campaign against Apple using writs of assistance.

Re: Bill Gates sides with FBI against Apple and government overreach - GGD - 02-23-2016

He's now trying to clarify his position, and says that he's not siding with the FBI.

In a later interview with Bloomberg (video below), Gates said he was "disappointed" that his comments had been characterized as backing the FBI "because that doesn't state my view on this," but he stopped short of saying Apple should not comply with the court's order.

"The courts are going to decide this, and I think Apple said whatever the court decision is, they'll abide by [it]," Gates said when asked asked what Cupertino should do. "In the meantime, that gives us this opportunity to get the discussion" started.

He urged both sides not to act rashly. "You want to strike that balance [and] set an example" for the rest of the world.

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