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Obamacare is not cured - samintx - 07-13-2016
http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2016/07/obamacare-exchanges-states-north-carolina-000162
Long but interesting what is happening to Obamacare now and your future premiums.
Re: Obamacare is not cure - rjmacs - 07-13-2016
Politico wrote:
The ACA’s strength and its weakness is that it was built atop America's private insurance system: rather than creating new government health plans, it depends on competition among companies to offer affordable insurance to people who need it.
You getting behind Medicare for all, Suzanne?
Re: Obamacare is not cure - Speedy - 07-13-2016
rjmacs wrote:
[quote=Politico]
The ACA’s strength and its weakness is that it was built atop America's private insurance system: rather than creating new government health plans, it depends on competition among companies to offer affordable insurance to people who need it.
You getting behind Medicare for all, Suzanne?
She got hers, as did I. Who cares about everyone else…
Re: Obamacare is not cured - Uncle Wig - 07-13-2016
Obamacare has major issues, unfortunately. I wince when I hear it described as a success. In some ways it is, but it does have serious problems. A lot of people have signed up for really crappy plans, either because it's all that's available or affordable, or they just don't understand the risk of a high deductible.
I have a decent plan this year, but the insurer is pulling out of the Marketplace so I have to start over again in January. This will be my third policy. I may or may not to keep my doctor. It's a real pain in the rear.
But for all its problems, no Republican has EVER put forward a viable alternative. So just STFU and try to fix is.
Re: Obamacare is not cure - samintx - 07-13-2016
rjmacs wrote:
[quote=Politico]
The ACA’s strength and its weakness is that it was built atop America's private insurance system: rather than creating new government health plans, it depends on competition among companies to offer affordable insurance to people who need it.
You getting behind Medicare for all, Suzanne?
I'm not getting behind anything. For some reason there is an aversion here to people exploring both sides of an issue. It was an interesting article. Don't try to cubby hole people because they find many articles pro and con interesting to read.
Re: Obamacare is not cured - samintx - 07-13-2016
Uncle Wig wrote:
Obamacare has major issues, unfortunately. I wince when I hear it described as a success. In some ways it is, but it does have serious problems. A lot of people have signed up for really crappy plans, either because it's all that's available or affordable, or they just don't understand the risk of a high deductible.
I have a decent plan this year, but the insurer is pulling out of the Marketplace so I have to start over again in January. This will be my third policy. I may or may not to keep my doctor. It's a real pain in the rear.
But for all its problems, no Republican has EVER put forward a viable alternative. So just STFU and try to fix is.
agreed. All I have heard is "we have to delete Obamacare" but no solutions. Oh, well…we have Trump now. Our problems are solved.
miley-talk034:
Re: Obamacare is not cured - Pam - 07-13-2016
Money. Healthcare costs need to be addressed. Until that is genuinely done, insurance costs are a red herring. And that ain't going to happen.
Re: Obamacare is not cured - cbelt3 - 07-13-2016
What almost everyone in this country forgets is that Affordable Healthcare Act (ACA0 was a piece of legislative sausage created from the floor sweepings of decades of health insurance industry lobbyists proposals. And directly supervised BY health insurance industry lobbyists, who, as I recall, had an office in the West Wing.
So of course it was designed to benefit the health insurance industry. But they bought into their own propaganda, and believed that only health people were running around without health insurance. Oops.
Re: Obamacare is not cure - freeradical - 07-13-2016
Employer provided health care needs to be killed if you want Obamacare to have any long term chance of survival. The best way to do that would be to treat these employer provided benefits as regular income. Tax these benefits as regular income. Besides, it's only fair to everyone else who has to pay for health care with after tax dollars.
Re: Obamacare is not cured - OWC Jamie - 07-13-2016
Uncle Wig wrote:
But for all its problems, no Republican has EVER put forward a viable alternative. So just STFU and try to fix is.
What's ironic about that blatant spin and brand influenced lie is that since Nixon proposed what has become the ACA in 1974, which private insurance companies salivated over , Democrats proposed a system based on Mediacre and SS. Romney made Nixon's plan the law of the land in Massachusetts.
Democrats took this same plan, raped it and federalized it. Again, raping the poor and middle class, making no one but the profiteers happy.