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What is the fallout when president Trump kicks 20 million people off their insurance plans? - Dennis S - 10-06-2016
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Re: What is the fallout when president Trump kicks 20 million people off their insurance plans? - pdq - 10-06-2016
1) There ain't gonna be a President Trump
2) After appeasing the big health insurance companies with Obamacare, the former have decided there's not enough money in it for them. So whoever's president, I fear we're in for health-care-deathmatch II.
Public option, please.
Re: What is the fallout when president Trump kicks 20 million people off their insurance plans? - swampy - 10-06-2016
Only 20 million? That about puts us back to where we were 8 years ago.
Re: What is the fallout when president Trump kicks 20 million people off their insurance plans? - mstudio - 10-06-2016
Dennis S wrote:
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20 million people will be without health insurance. This includes my cousin that was unable to get insurance because of her pre-existing cancer diagnosis.
Re: What is the fallout when president Trump kicks 20 million people off their insurance plans? - cbelt3 - 10-06-2016
Sigh.
So... this is after Drumpf declares Martial Law ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers#United_States
Re: What is the fallout when president Trump kicks 20 million people off their insurance plans? - J Marston - 10-06-2016
Obamacare has been woven into the social fabric.
The Republican response will be "buy insurance across state lines," which is of course idiotic: see how well that worked out for credit cards. (All credit card companies are now in Delaware, which has the most lax protections.) Currently, states regulate what must be covered--California has a silicosis requirement, Virginia a brown lung requirement, etc. Those would all vanish, since insurance companies would migrate to the state that
So if they have to, Republicans will return people to the days of junk insurance; insurance companies will be able to refuse coverage to anyone; and people who get sick will be ditched from the rolls.
Re: What is the fallout when president Trump kicks 20 million people off their insurance plans? - pdq - 10-06-2016
J Marston wrote:
The Republican response will be "buy insurance across state lines," which is of course idiotic: see how well that worked out for credit cards. (All credit card companies are now in Delaware, which has the most lax protections.) Currently, states regulate what must be covered--California has a silicosis requirement, Virginia a brown lung requirement, etc. Those would all vanish, since insurance companies would migrate to the state thatprostitutedincentivized itself most completely.
That's why I cringe a little whenever I hear about some federal safety-net program being converted to "block grants" where the states can make up their own rules and procedures.
This usually seems to turn into a "race to the bottom". After all, what state wants to attract poor people? And so sometimes the most responsible states end up getting dumped on.
Re: What is the fallout when president Trump kicks 20 million people off their insurance plans? - Acer - 10-06-2016
J Marston wrote:
The Republican response will be "buy insurance across state lines,"
Don't forget the Republican notion that free services should be limited so that we are less likely to ask for procedures we don't need or will be more likely shop around. Of course, they actually got that wish with the massive deductibles we all have now.
Re: What is the fallout when president Trump kicks 20 million people off their insurance plans? - fauch - 10-07-2016
How can Trump "do this"? Does the President decide who gets insurance? If the Republicans repeal Obamacare will it really be Trump's fault?
Sometimes I think that during election years people forget that the president is not an almighty king and in most areas, by himself, has little (if any) discretionary power.
Re: What is the fallout when president Trump kicks 20 million people off their insurance plans? - Dennis S - 10-07-2016
He promised he will do it. He'll have lots of willing help from the congress who's already voted over 50 times to repeal Obamacare. They'll get it done one way or another or at least give it hell.