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One Democrat had the ability to learn from the mistakes..... - max - 11-12-2016
Paying the price for machining Bernie out....
On Thursday, Democratic Party officials held their first staff meeting since Hillary Clinton’s stunning loss to Donald Trump in the presidential race. It didn’t go well.
Donna Brazile, the interim leader of the Democratic National Committee, was giving what one attendee described as “a rip-roaring speech” to about 150 employees, about the need to have hope for wins going forward, when a staffer identified only as Zach stood up with a question.
“Why should we trust you as chair to lead us through this?” he asked, according to two people in the room. “You backed a flawed candidate, and your friend [former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz] plotted through this to support your own gain and yourself.”
Some DNC staffers started to boo and some told him to sit down. Brazile began to answer, but Zach had more to say.
“You are part of the problem,” he continued, blaming Brazile for clearing the path for Trump’s victory by siding with Clinton early on.
Re: One Democrat had the ability to learn from the mistakes..... - Onamuji - 11-12-2016
The favorite to take the leadership position is Howard Dean.
I think he'd be a very good choice.
Re: One Democrat had the ability to learn from the mistakes..... - vision63 - 11-12-2016
max wrote:
Paying the price for machining Bernie out....
On Thursday, Democratic Party officials held their first staff meeting since Hillary Clinton’s stunning loss to Donald Trump in the presidential race. It didn’t go well.
Donna Brazile, the interim leader of the Democratic National Committee, was giving what one attendee described as “a rip-roaring speech” to about 150 employees, about the need to have hope for wins going forward, when a staffer identified only as Zach stood up with a question.
“Why should we trust you as chair to lead us through this?” he asked, according to two people in the room. “You backed a flawed candidate, and your friend [former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz] plotted through this to support your own gain and yourself.”
Some DNC staffers started to boo and some told him to sit down. Brazile began to answer, but Zach had more to say.
“You are part of the problem,” he continued, blaming Brazile for clearing the path for Trump’s victory by siding with Clinton early on.
The whole Bernie as a victim suggestion is the most ignorant, factless lie ever promulgated. You or anyone else cannot show this to be true.
Enough.
Bernie lost because he didn't get enough votes. Primarily he was rejected by 2 out of 3 African Americans. That right there ended him.
Re: One Democrat had the ability to learn from the mistakes..... - max - 11-12-2016
vision63 wrote:
[quote=max]
Paying the price for machining Bernie out....
On Thursday, Democratic Party officials held their first staff meeting since Hillary Clinton’s stunning loss to Donald Trump in the presidential race. It didn’t go well.
Donna Brazile, the interim leader of the Democratic National Committee, was giving what one attendee described as “a rip-roaring speech” to about 150 employees, about the need to have hope for wins going forward, when a staffer identified only as Zach stood up with a question.
“Why should we trust you as chair to lead us through this?” he asked, according to two people in the room. “You backed a flawed candidate, and your friend [former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz] plotted through this to support your own gain and yourself.”
Some DNC staffers started to boo and some told him to sit down. Brazile began to answer, but Zach had more to say.
“You are part of the problem,” he continued, blaming Brazile for clearing the path for Trump’s victory by siding with Clinton early on.
The whole Bernie as a victim suggestion is the most ignorant, factless lie ever promulgated. You or anyone else cannot show this to be true. Sure I can....
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-sanders
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
Re: One Democrat had the ability to learn from the mistakes..... - Acer - 11-12-2016
In the land of hypotheticals, everyone's a winner.
Re: One Democrat had the ability to learn from the mistakes..... - max - 11-12-2016
Acer wrote:
In the land of hypotheticals, everyone's a winner.
Not exactly hypotheticals, Acer, Clinton loss gives you a baseline from which you can start counting Sanders' premium, even discounting for yellow dog Democrats who would have voted for Democrats anyway, Socialist branding of Sanders and couple additional minor variables, Sanders would have won by landslide...
PS. I do not blame vision, he was principled, picked his choices and stayed with them, it is the rest of you wannabe progressives, flaming hypocrites that ran from the best choice we had to the full support of Darth Vader in a skirt, just because she wore a skirt and had a D in front of her name....
Re: One Democrat had the ability to learn from the mistakes..... - centiMac - 11-12-2016
Onamuji wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6i-gYRAwM0
The favorite to take the leadership position is Howard Dean.
I think he'd be a very good choice.
Re: One Democrat had the ability to learn from the mistakes..... - OWC Jamie - 11-12-2016
It's comical to watch them all stabbing each other in the back for the imaginary tiny shreds of power they have left.
Re: One Democrat had the ability to learn from the mistakes..... - vision63 - 11-12-2016
Bernie "is" principled. He is a great guy. But he needed to form deeper alliances prior to his tossing his hat into the ring. He probably "could" have won had he started the process a few years earlier.
Re: One Democrat had the ability to learn from the mistakes..... - beagledave - 11-12-2016
max wrote:
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-sanders
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
Because we all know how reliable political forecasting was during this cycle....