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San Diego Hepatitis A Outbreak - what's the deal? - hal - 09-22-2017
In case you haven't heard, SoCal is going through a serious hepatitis A outbreak. Look it up if you haven't heard...
I went to school at UCSD near San Diego a LONG time ago. I had a bio prof that once took an entire lecture to bitch about San Diego's water treatment (or lack there of).
He said that SD continuously brakes federal law about water treatment - the city council would vote to continue the current system (that amounted to little more than a screen to block the big pieces from flowing directly into the ocean after being piped some distance out to sea) and pat themselves on the back for saving the city $Millions.
The guy was ranting at the lectern. For an entire period. There was nothing in the lecture that related to anything that we would be tested on - he just wanted us to know.
He insisted that outbreaks would occur occasionally and the city would blame it on Tijuana. This was during the Pete Wilson years as mayor.
Was this true? If so, is this still the case and is it responsible for the current outbreak.
Re: San Diego Hepatitis A Outbreak - what's the deal? - cbelt3 - 09-22-2017
FAQ for San Diegans
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/sd-me-hepatitis-questions-20170914-story.html
Lack of public toilets and a large homeless population ?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-san-diego-restrooms-20170921-story.html
Genetic tracing indicates a Mediterranean source ?
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/sd-me-hepatitis-origins-20170918-story.html
Re: San Diego Hepatitis A Outbreak - what's the deal? - Speedy - 09-22-2017
I got the vaccine. I get all vaccines (except the cervical cancer vaccine because I doubt if I will be spreading the virus.)
Re: San Diego Hepatitis A Outbreak - what's the deal? - NewtonMP2100 - 09-22-2017
.......hurricanes, earthquakes, war.....famine, pestilence....death.....armageddon is coming......
Re: San Diego Hepatitis A Outbreak - what's the deal? - Racer X - 09-22-2017
Speedy wrote:
I got the vaccine. I get all vaccines (except the cervical cancer vaccine because I doubt if I will be spreading the virus.)
And THAT attitude makes you part of the problem! What are you, one of those looney anti-v a g e r s?
Re: San Diego Hepatitis A Outbreak - what's the deal? - freeradical - 09-22-2017
Re: San Diego Hepatitis A Outbreak - what's the deal? - GuyGene - 09-23-2017
Now now, Racer, I'm sure Speedy would not do that. How do I know? Good question. Because ALL Phorumites are very decent, good, and otherwise nice people who want to Do The Right Thing©. We are.
And, I second the hand washing! To me the absolute most basic and important human needs are:
1. Clean water
2. Good sewerage
In/Out
Why do you think In n Out burgers are so good?
Re: San Diego Hepatitis A Outbreak - what's the deal? - Speedy - 09-23-2017
Racer X wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
I got the vaccine. I get all vaccines (except the cervical cancer vaccine because I doubt if I will be spreading the virus.)
And THAT attitude makes you part of the problem! What are you, one of those looney anti-v a g e r s?
My son, on the other hand, got the cervical cancer vaccine vaccine as a young teenager (as did my daughter).
Re: San Diego Hepatitis A Outbreak - what's the deal? - Racer X - 09-23-2017
so did my 2 step kids.
Re: San Diego Hepatitis A Outbreak - what's the deal? - bfd - 09-23-2017
City government has been warned for more than 20 years that the homeless problem was not going away. 10 years ago, a Grand Jury recommended immediate action to provide public restrooms and handwashing facilities for the growing homeless population (over 10k). Many of these homeless are confined to a fairly small area around Petco Park. There is a Father Joe's and a Day Center nearby that attract more from a wider area of downtown.
The County got involved about a month ago (Health Department) after approximately 40 confirmed/hospitalized cases and several deaths were attributed to Hep A. They urged/demanded that the City immediately provide handwashing facilities to help cut down the almost epidemic spread of the virus.
So the deal is this, San Diego has pretty much ignored the growing homeless population. The homeless set up little Hoovervilles all over downtown, taking over the sidewalks on blocks and blocks. There are no public restrooms, so they relieve themselves wherever they can. Hand washing? LOL And as a result, the Hep A virus has had a field day. So far, the virus has been contained to a small population of homeless, but the real fear is that it jumps outside the downtown area and starts affecting "real people" (not that homeless aren't real people, but around here they're pretty much treated as if they aren't - until now…)
You mentioned the sad state of sewer treatment in San Diego - "advanced primary" - it has not improved much in many years, but it is not the cause of the current outbreak.
We know where this outbreak started and how it is spreading. It's just been in the past week that city government has finally gotten serious about doing something about it. This is after County Health finally forced the issue, and it is after the Padres owner put up a huge chunk of his own money to purchase large shelters to help contain - and hopefully treat - the homeless in the area. Obviously, he's concerned about his baseball investment - just walking to and from Petco from some of the nearby parking areas is a stinking mess. Truly horrible. And that's just for those of us who are lucky enough to be able to walk through and be gone from the area.
We don't have to live in the mess like the homeless who are there 24/7/365. It's a real mess.