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Now it's 21 - p8712 - 09-24-2017
First it was 0, then 3, then , now 21
A story that needs more coverage.
Re: Now it's 21 - sekker - 09-24-2017
Minnesota was attacked, but we use paper ballots...
Re: Now it's 21 - Lemon Drop - 09-24-2017
Washington
Secretary of State Kim Wyman said in a statement that “the security protocols we already have in place made us aware of these attempted intrusions by Russian IP addresses throughout the course of the 2016 election. There was no successful intrusion, and we immediately alerted the Federal Bureau of Investigation of the activities.”
I want to believe this about my state but it's not reassuring.
Re: Now it's 21 - Lemon Drop - 09-24-2017
Should President Obama have told us about this at the time?
Re: Now it's 21 - Onamuji - 09-24-2017
Lemon Drop wrote:
I want to believe this about my state but it's not reassuring.
It's a very misleading statement. They haven't defined "intrusion" or what "breaching the voting systems" means.
There are dozens of convenient ways to hack election results even if they didn't get into the actual voting machines. (But by all accounts it's mind-bogglingly easy for anyone with access to Google and a flash drive to hack electronic voting machines.)
And for most states, all they're going by is logs of Russian IP addresses. Seriously? Like nobody ever masks an IP address or uses a VPN?
Re: Now it's 21 - Lemon Drop - 09-24-2017
There's a lot more detail about what took place in this article:
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/russian-hackers-tried-to-access-washington-states-voting-systems-officials-say/
the attempted but unsuccessful intrusion was only at the state level and against elections websites and voter registration systems, but not ballot-counting, which is done at the county level.
so it appears that cyber-security worked. the investigation into those breaches, not so much...
again, very disconcerting that state officials knew about this before the election and we're just now finding out.
Re: Now it's 21 - max - 09-24-2017
Chicken Littles swilling propaganda Koolaide...
p8712 wrote:
First it was 0, then 3, then , now 21
A story that needs more coverage.
Lemon Drop wrote:
There's a lot more detail about what took place in this article:
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/russian-hackers-tried-to-access-washington-states-voting-systems-officials-say/
the attempted but unsuccessful intrusion was only at the state level and against elections websites and voter registration systems, but not ballot-counting, which is done at the county level.
so it appears that cyber-security worked. the investigation into those breaches, not so much...
again, very disconcerting that state officials knew about this before the election and we're just now finding out.
That is a pile of the most idiotic propaganda BS,
at least there is some reality out there:...
"Secretary of State Wayne W. Williams downplayed the hacking threat. “This was a scan, and many computer systems are regularly scanned,” he said in a statement. “It happens hundreds, if not thousands, of times per day"
A better description and perspective:...
Oregon's chief information security officer, Lisa Vasa, said in a statement that her team blocks “upwards of 14 million attempts to access our network every day. These attempts come from all over the world, including Russia, with the largest number from the U.S.”Another apt analogy:...
“What this boils down to is that someone tried the door knob, and it was locked,” Reid Magney, a spokesman for the Wisconsin Elections Commission, told The Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/23/what-we-know-about-the-21-states-targeted-by-russian-hackers/?utm_term=.cb445c601d3b
Re: Now it's 21 - Onamuji - 09-24-2017
max wrote:
Another apt analogy:...
“What this boils down to is that someone tried the door knob, and it was locked,” Reid Magney, a spokesman for the Wisconsin Elections Commission, told The Post.
What this amounts to is that the door lock was locked, but the door was ajar, all the windows were open, and there was a gaping hole in every wall and now they're patting themselves on the back over the fact that the lock wasn't cracked.
Re: Now it's 21 - Speedy - 09-25-2017
Seems more likely a company like the former Diebold would do the dirty work.