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Dems circle debate wagons - shoot each other again - RgrF - 08-23-2019

Twelve count em 12 debates and the Dems who lost the Presidency last time claim they don't have time for a climate issues debate.
The Democratic National Committee has rejected mounting calls for a party-sponsored debate on the climate crisis, voting down a resolution that would have dedicated one of the 12 Democratic debates entirely to the issue.

Steny Hoyer and Company: they are fools and deserve the ridicule heaped on them from those outside the political spectrum.


Re: Dems circle debate wagons - shoot each other again - Sarcany - 08-23-2019

RgrF wrote:
Twelve count em 12 debates and the Dems who lost the Presidency last time claim they don't have time for a climate issues debate.

Pick something else to ridicule. There's plenty.

They don't want to debate climate change because they don't want to make it appear that there is a debate about climate change.

That's a respectable position to take.


Re: Dems circle debate wagons - shoot each other again - mrbigstuff - 08-23-2019

What's to debate before the primary? Save it for the general.


Re: Dems circle debate wagons - shoot each other again - RgrF - 08-23-2019

Sarcany wrote:
[quote=RgrF]
Twelve count em 12 debates and the Dems who lost the Presidency last time claim they don't have time for a climate issues debate.

Pick something else to ridicule. There's plenty.

They don't want to debate climate change because they don't want to make it appear that there is a debate about climate change.

That's a respectable position to take.
There's a mountain of things to debate decide about what we'll do, if you think the younger generation isn't watching and listening to this issue, you'd be wrong.


Re: Dems circle debate wagons - shoot each other again - RgrF - 08-23-2019

mrbigstuff wrote:
What's to debate before the primary? Save it for the general.
You mean before or after the Orange Studmuffin blows the debate format up? You really think he'll allow the fake news networks to inveigle him into a format he can't dominate?


Re: Dems circle debate wagons - shoot each other again - Lemon Drop - 08-23-2019

Speaking of David Koch...
I think a Dem primary debate focused on climate change policy ideas would be fantastic.

It would accomplish a number of things:
1. educate voters in the many ways climate change will impact them now and in the future
2. illustrate that the Democratic party is 100% in agreement that this is a real crisis and action is required. Republicans are in denial.
3. Showcase policy ideas without having to decide which approach is best
4. Require all the candidates remaining at that time to do their homework on the issue
5. Highlight some of the ways other countries and some of the states are addressing the crisis

I get that the DNC is reluctant to do single-issue debates at all but this would be a worth exception.


Re: Dems circle debate wagons - shoot each other again - mrbigstuff - 08-23-2019

RgrF wrote:
[quote=mrbigstuff]
What's to debate before the primary? Save it for the general.
You mean before or after the Orange Studmuffin blows the debate format up? You really think he'll allow the fake news networks to inveigle him into a format he can't dominate?

This is a for/against topic. We know what side the candidates for the Democratic primary are on. I bet they will also not have a debate on abortion rights, gerrymandering and election fraud, either.


Re: Dems circle debate wagons - shoot each other again - deckeda - 08-23-2019

A central problem with candidate debates (or, their inherent goal ... depending on your perspective) is that they aren’t setup as advocacy workshops. We may want them to “debate” best ideas but the networks in particular demand a slugfest so that “a winner” is declared.


Re: Dems circle debate wagons - shoot each other again - rjmacs - 08-23-2019

The climate is an issue where the closer you get to the details, the worse an electoral issue it is. Keep it general - we're fighting on the right side.


Re: Dems circle debate wagons - shoot each other again - $tevie - 08-24-2019

It would be better if the candidates held a climate change forum after the convention. It could be an exchange of ideas instead of an argument about whose position is best. It would represent solidarity in the party and a rebuke of the GOP. Granted, it won’t be as sexy as reducing the topic to a series of 60-second sound bites. They can have a couple of popular celebrities “moderate” the panel to juice up the ratings.