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Yep, this pic about says it all - PeterB - 01-29-2021
Re: Yep, this pic about says it all - Randalls - 01-29-2021
Heather Cox Richardson-
“In all my years of studying U.S. politics, seamy side and all, I never expected to see the name of an American president in the New York Times in a list comparing him to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. But then, I never expected to see an American president urge a mob to storm the U.S. Capitol to overturn an election, either.”
Re: Yep, this pic about says it all - samintx - 01-29-2021
So sad we have come to this:oldfogette:
Re: Yep, this pic about says it all - p8712 - 01-29-2021
samintx wrote:
So sad we have come to this:oldfogette:
Not all of us.
Re: Yep, this pic about says it all - bfd - 01-29-2021
There will be a reckoning, an upheaval, that will be at the least historic. It's already resulted in bloodshed and death, but these really are just the first inklings of trouble ahead.
10 years out? Seems impossible, but there also seems to be no end in sight to this, and further division of the country is bound to be the result. Red States vs Blue States. It's happening now. Biden knows this, he can read the tea leaves. He correctly identifies it as a fight for the soul of the country. Whether he can rally the good side and motivate them to counter the madness on the other side - in time to avert disaster - is an open question.
Re: Yep, this pic about says it all - Acer - 01-29-2021
But why? Why bloodshed? What is so bad about white life in this country that we have to burn it all down to see justice?
The MAGA insurrection was well fed, warmly dressed, arrived in safe planes and vehicles in comfort. They were educated in the very schools they insist can't educate anyone. No one asked for their papers. No one ever burned their church. They seem to have jobs, because they had one to get fired from when they were seen on video. They had cell phones capable of live-streaming their activities. They can safely walk by any cop in the country and have no fear of being challenged, even when dragging gallows and zip ties to the Capitol. And they all went home to see the results of their labors unfold on their widescreen TVs.
What is their problem???
And I say that as someone who enjoys every one of the advantages I described.
Re: Yep, this pic about says it all - rjmacs - 01-29-2021
Acer wrote:
But why? Why bloodshed? What is so bad about white life in this country that we have to burn it all down to see justice?
The MAGA insurrection was well fed, warmly dressed, arrived in safe planes and vehicles in comfort. They were educated in the very schools they insist can't educate anyone. No one asked for their papers. No one ever burned their church. They seem to have jobs, because they had one to get fired from when they were seen on video. They had cell phones capable of live-streaming their activities. They can safely walk by any cop in the country and have no fear of being challenged, even when dragging gallows and zip ties to the Capitol. And they all went home to see the results of their labors unfold on their widescreen TVs.
What is their problem???
And I say that as someone who enjoys every one of the advantages I described.
It's called relative deprivation, and its promoter within the study of political instability and ideological conflict was Ted Gurr.
It's not about what they have. It's about the perceived gap between what they have and what they feel they ought to have, in particular relative to an imagined future based on current trends. The ideological component determines who or what is considered to be responsible for this gap, and resulting sense of deprivation.
As wages and opportunities have stagnated for working people (blue and white collar), many White Americans have felt as though they should have better options and outcomes than they have realized, based on their expectations of the country and future. This is inseparable from the sense of entitlement that White people have become acculturated to over centuries of supremacist practices in this country. The elimination of a solid middle class and growing encroachment of non-Whites into spheres that confer advantage (higher education, for example) have left many Whites with substantial privilege feeling that they've been deprived of something they deserve, and when they look for a scapegoat, the growing non-White population makes for an easy target. Making America 'great again' is about the restoration of that upward trajectory for Whites, bolstered by a government that puts them first and an economy that rewards them disproportionately.
In other words, equality is harder to stomach if you're used to being on top.
Re: Yep, this pic about says it all - wurm - 01-29-2021
rjmacs wrote:
It's called relative deprivation, and its promoter within the study of political instability and ideological conflict was Ted Gurr.
It's not about what they have. It's about the perceived gap between what they have and what they feel they ought to have, in particular relative to an imagined future based on current trends. The ideological component determines who or what is considered to be responsible for this gap, and resulting sense of deprivation.
As wages and opportunities have stagnated for working people (blue and white collar), many White Americans have felt as though they should have better options and outcomes than they have realized, based on their expectations of the country and future. This is inseparable from the sense of entitlement that White people have become acculturated to over centuries of supremacist practices in this country. The elimination of a solid middle class and growing encroachment of non-Whites into spheres that confer advantage (higher education, for example) have left many Whites with substantial privilege feeling that they've been deprived of something they deserve, and when they look for a scapegoat, the growing non-White population makes for an easy target. Making America 'great again' is about the restoration of that upward trajectory for Whites, bolstered by a government that puts them first and an economy that rewards them disproportionately.
In other words, equality is harder to stomach if you're used to being on top.
Damn. Based on what we're seeing lately, it seems you hit the nail on the head.
Re: Yep, this pic about says it all - bfd - 01-30-2021
Some of the worst of them haven't seen ANY economic stimulus funds. They won't either, because they don't qualify.
But they're not economically wealthy people by any means.
So where are those checks?
They're all going to losers and any that are left over are going to tax cheaters. (at least that's what people are saying)
Re: Yep, this pic about says it all - SteveG - 01-30-2021
They aren't afraid of equality. They just hate anyone of color, recently arrived or not of their religion.
The thought of equality never enters their minds.