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AR-15-style rifle and a shotgun close to the shooter's body - SteveG - 08-29-2022
"I heard anywhere from five to eight shots. I thought it sounded like backfire," Heather Thompson told Central Oregon Daily News. "Less than a minute later, there were 10 to 20 shots and then another 10 to 20 shots. And by that time, I went inside and told my dad to get away from the window. And people were running out of Safeway."
2 dead and at least 1 injured in a shooting at an Oregon Safeway. The suspected gunman is also dead, police say
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/29/us/safeway-shooting-bend-oregon/index.html
Sunday evening in Bend Oregon.
FREEDOMS!
Re: AR-15-style rifle and a shotgun close to the shooter's body - SteveG - 08-29-2022
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Re: AR-15-style rifle and a shotgun close to the shooter's body - Lemon Drop - 08-29-2022
There were so many mass shootings this weekend, you could run a season of Law and Order on them. One at Coney Island I believe, young childrdn shot and killed in Texas, on and on.
Re: AR-15-style rifle and a shotgun close to the shooter's body - Acer - 08-29-2022
Ah, yes, allowing men to use women's restrooms killed 2 and injured one in Bend, Oregon. I didn't think Bend was that woke.
Re: AR-15-style rifle and a shotgun close to the shooter's body - btfc - 08-29-2022
I’m at my Oregon place and have been thinking about going to Bend for supplies today.
Re: AR-15-style rifle and a shotgun close to the shooter's body - btfc - 08-29-2022
“ I didn't think Bend was that woke. “
I blame all that second hand pot smoke.
Re: AR-15-style rifle and a shotgun close to the shooter's body - SteveG - 08-29-2022
Police identified the gunman as Ethan Blair Miller and said he lived in the Fox Hollow apartments in back of the shopping center.
Miller is listed as a member of the class of 2020 at Mountain View High School in Bend. Rage-filled screeds posted to public platforms and purported to be written by Miller in recent weeks warn of massacres and plans to take his own life. The entries refer to the 1999 Columbine High School massacre. They also refer to Miller’s trouble finding a girlfriend. He wrote that the planned shooting wasn’t an act of racial or ethnic hatred, but he went on to use multiple slurs.
Re: AR-15-style rifle and a shotgun close to the shooter's body - Lemon Drop - 08-29-2022
The men he killed were 84 and 66, and they died trying to stop him. There were a number of armed bystanders but they were not able to stop him before he killed those 2 and himself.
Not hearing from the 2A crowd on this one. This is how it usually goes, no good guys with guns save the day.
Re: AR-15-style rifle and a shotgun close to the shooter's body - btfc - 08-30-2022
More details:
https://news.yahoo.com/police-2-killed-oregon-grocery-045314793.html
Re: AR-15-style rifle and a shotgun close to the shooter's body - pdq - 08-30-2022
Slightly related curious event at the Mall of America this past weekend:
Prosecutors on Monday charged a 28-year-old Woodbury man accused of committing an armed robbery inside Mall of America with an AR-15-style rifle on Friday.
… According to the criminal complaint, police in Bloomington went to the mall Friday after a man, later identified as Alexander, allegedly entered the Lids store on the third floor while holding a rifle at his side… Alexander is not alleged to have pointed the weapon at either employee, but he did rest it on the counter at one point during the incident. The employees stated that Alexander walked through the store, pointing out various jerseys he wanted employees to take down for him. He asked the employees to remove the security tags and put the jerseys in a bag for him. He eventually left the store with the bag and without paying for the products.
Mall of America security also informed law enforcement of a robbery alleged to involve Alexander at a kiosk. According to an employee of the kiosk, Alexander allegedly grabbed an item while holding a knife. Alexander then walked away while the employee was telling him he had to pay for what he took.
He’d also hit a pawn shop earlier in the day; similar MO.
Anyway, the police took him down at the mall, disarmed him and arrested him. No shots were fired (although his rifle was loaded, with a bullet in the chamber).
Two things stuck out to me; first, if this had happened in certain other states, would this have been armed robbery? (It was illegal here; specifically, MoA bans all guns on the premises). One could see a defense attorney saying My client was just exercising his 2nd amendment rights; he didn’t threaten anyone (though the store employees obviously felt threatened). He just forgot to pay. Charge him with shoplifting if you must, but give him back his gun and apologize for the manner in which you seized it.
The other thing: He is 28 years old, and has no previous record. And one day he wakes up, grabs his AR-15, and hits three stores (two in the MoA) the same way? Is he crazy? Is he making a statement of some sort? Or intentionally looking to be incarcerated? He faces charges which could call for 60 years.
:dunno: