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‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum - SteveG - 07-28-2023
similarly tough for those Jews who side with Pharaoh on Passover
‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/28/disgusting-black-republicans-livid-over-desantis-slavery-attack-00108776
The bitter fight between Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and Rep. Byron Donalds over a line about slavery in the state’s revised African American history standards is infuriating several prominent Black conservatives.
Several told POLITICO they fear the issue will play into Democrats’ characterization of Republicans as favoring a whitewashing of American history. Most saw it as an unforced error at the time when Black Republicans feel they’ve been making significant strides within the party.
“It raises eyebrows,” said Diante Johnson, president of the Black Conservative Federation, who is supporting Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. “Ron DeSantis is not the candidate for Black conservatives and that’s what [he] constantly, constantly exhibits to us.”
At issue are the new education standards for how Black history is taught in Florida schools that DeSantis signed into law last year. The revised guidelines, released this month, require educators to instruct middle schoolers that “slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.”
Donalds, who largely praised the guidelines as “good, robust and accurate,” took issue with the idea of “personal benefit” and said that part is “wrong and needs to be adjusted.” Donalds supported DeSantis for governor but has backed Trump in the presidential primary.
That prompted an onslaught from the DeSantis camp. Christina Pushaw, the director of rapid response for the DeSantis presidential campaign, mused, “Did Kamala Harris write this tweet?” referencing the vice president’s recent trip to Florida, in which she denounced the new standards.
DeSantis dug in, disparaging his fellow Republican with one of the worst insults one can lob: comparing him to a Democrat. “Are you going to side with Kamala Harris and liberal media outlets or are you going to side with the state of Florida?”
To some prominent Black Republicans, it was a DeSantis misstep. And one that comes as his campaign is attempting to jump-start its flagging operation.
“It’s just not a good position for the DeSantis campaign to take. And they’re doubling down and that’s what’s even more disgusting,” said the Black Conservative Federation’s Johnson.
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For another of DeSantis’ rivals in the presidential primary, the controversy provided an opening. Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina, who is among the five Black GOP members of Congress, added to the chorus of Black conservatives criticizing DeSantis for supporting Florida’s revised educational standard.
“There is no silver lining in slavery,” Scott said. “Slavery was really about separating families, about mutilating humans and even raping their wives. It was just devastating.”
DeSantis responded to Scott on Friday, once more by accusing him of echoing Harris.
“Part of the reason our country has struggled is because D.C. Republicans all too often accept false narratives, accept lies that are perpetrated by the Left,” he said during a swing through Iowa. “And to accept the lie that Kamala Harris has been perpetrating even when that has been debunked, that’s not the way you do it.”
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Many Black Republicans find themselves in a quandary: on the one hand having to push back on perceptions that slavery has positive attributes, but also fighting the perception that if they voice criticism, it leads to questions of whether they are sufficiently conservative.
Re: ‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum - Ombligo - 07-28-2023
The thing is DeSantis knows he was wrong, but he is too stubborn to ever admit a mistake. That has happened time and time again while he is governor. Once he says/does something, he will never step back to reevaluate. He believes he is both omniscient and omnipotent, despite being neither.
Re: ‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum - SteveG - 07-28-2023
Ombligo wrote:
The thing is DeSantis knows he was wrong, but he is too stubborn to ever admit a mistake. That has happened time and time again while he is governor. Once he says/does something, he will never step back to reevaluate. He believes he is both omniscient and omnipotent, despite being neither.
(Is it true he's a Catholic, not a Christian?)
Re: ‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum - JoeH - 07-28-2023
“It raises eyebrows,”
Well if that isn't a case of barely acknowledging a problem with their GOP leadership. Alarm bells should be ringing in his ears.
Re: ‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum - jonny - 07-28-2023
When you surround yourself with racists and Nazis, does that make you a racist? Or a Nazi?
I think Mr. DeSantis would like the answer to be 'no'. But we all know what the real answer is.
Re: ‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum - vision63 - 07-29-2023
jonny wrote:
When you surround yourself with racists and Nazis, does that make you a racist? Or a Nazi?
I think Mr. DeSantis would like the answer to be 'no'. But we all know what the real answer is.
The Black Republicans surround themselves with the same people. They're just pickin' a nit.
Re: ‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum - Janit - 07-29-2023
vision63 wrote:
[quote=jonny]
When you surround yourself with racists and Nazis, does that make you a racist? Or a Nazi?
I think Mr. DeSantis would like the answer to be 'no'. But we all know what the real answer is.
The Black Republicans surround themselves with the same people. They're just pickin' a nit.
Not to mention Scott's old school paternalism, since he seems to believe that the rape of slave women was only offensive because they were the property of their husbands.
Re: ‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum - vision63 - 07-29-2023
Janit wrote:
[quote=vision63]
[quote=jonny]
When you surround yourself with racists and Nazis, does that make you a racist? Or a Nazi?
I think Mr. DeSantis would like the answer to be 'no'. But we all know what the real answer is.
The Black Republicans surround themselves with the same people. They're just pickin' a nit.
Not to mention Scott's old school paternalism, since he seems to believe that the rape of slave women was only offensive because they were the property of their husbands.
Yep. Exactamundo!
Re: ‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum - Lemon Drop - 07-30-2023
"Not to mention Scott's old school paternalism, since he seems to believe that the rape of slave women was only offensive because they were the property of their husbands."
When did Tim Scott say that rape of enslaved women was only offensive because they were "property of their husbands?"
Re: ‘Disgusting': Black Republicans livid over DeSantis’ slavery curriculum - Janit - 07-30-2023
Lemon Drop wrote:
"Not to mention Scott's old school paternalism, since he seems to believe that the rape of slave women was only offensive because they were the property of their husbands."
When did Tim Scott say that rape of enslaved women was only offensive because they were "property of their husbands?"
It's in the subtext of his phrasing "about mutilating humans and even raping their wives." At best it's sloppy, at worst it harks back to notions that men are the real humans and that women are just their wives.
There is admittedly a certain rhetorical rhythm to the way he phrased it, but it is telling that he didn't think to look for a better way to say it.